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Post by Nick C on Feb 22, 2011 11:11:49 GMT -6
I agree Turtle. Looking through the catalog, scrolling down the price drop was obvious from the 2-3 to 4 colors.
2 of my buddies let me get on their accounts, and looking through 700 Iowa coon or so, the price difference from 3x-4x to 2x is a BIG Gap!!
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Post by garman on Feb 22, 2011 11:13:04 GMT -6
It does appear things are selling better than last couple years though. (clearences) but I have not had chance to look over things well
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Post by 17HMR on Feb 22, 2011 11:42:37 GMT -6
Coyotes went good for me today, $38+ after fees with 6 buy backs that will drop my avg quite a little as I only had 33 there.
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Post by mtcbrlatrap on Feb 22, 2011 11:48:23 GMT -6
Huge price breaks from 3xxl to 2xxl coons this year also. 1.25 inches in that range is 7-9 dollars per coon!!! If one is going to put up coon one best know what they are doing and what forms to use!.
As to clearances I have always felt that high clearances are a good thing. I still believe that in general but I am not so en-thrilled by that as I used to be. High clearances at modest prices can also be an indication that the sale staff believes the future market is flat or trending lower and thus more fur is moved at the current time.
One of the things we are noticing that as the incomes of the fur buying nations go up and lifestyles become more affluent the value of utilitarian fur does not grow with the rest of the market. The good fur becomes the leader and that is where the dollars and resources go. As the income gaps widen in these countries there will be more likely less demand for the utilitarian type furs like average rats, coon, mink etc. and very good markets but very selective best grades and colors.
We will see who starts raising some well spotted western type cats in the future. Same with coons why trap 300 average color coons that sell for 6K when you can raise 20 litters of the best colors and get 4-5 k for 100 coons?
The more wealthy we all become the more we demand items that demonstrate our wealth and that is not an ordinary coon jacket or a muskrat hat anymore. It is a lapel trimmed outstanding coon with a sable hat.
Bryce
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Post by ksboy2 on Feb 22, 2011 12:42:19 GMT -6
i had a kansas coyote go for 60.00
bad news most of my coyotes were in the "gap" of ones they didn't pick up.. bummer
we'll see what happens on the next go round
21.58 across the board on what sold
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Post by longrangekilla on Feb 22, 2011 15:31:21 GMT -6
Packerfan-
What do taxidermists want with off color coon besides cinnamon or pure black???
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Post by seldom on Feb 22, 2011 19:32:43 GMT -6
One of the downfalls of selling through the two auctions is some of the abbreviations they use when grading, especially coyotes. This is the 1st year I've ever seen the abbreviation "PT" before used in place of "GD"(prime) or "AVG"(over prime).
This new abbreviation was used on some damaged coyotes that weren't graded III's and a single II. Has anybody else had this used on their coyotes or does anybody know what it represents? It's disturbing because the number of times it was used closely resembles the number of coyotes that I experimented on using a different cleaning agent to remove blood. Apart from that, it also resembles the number of coyotes I put up on new, adjustable stretchers as well that did not match NAFA's specs.
I've contacted NAFA and I hope I get an answer as to what "PT" means.
Coyote avg= $24.50 High-$72 (some bought back)
Grey Fox avg= $33 High-$52
Red Fox avg= $25.25 High $45
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Post by bblwi on Feb 22, 2011 20:14:25 GMT -6
PT means private treaty the pelts were probably sold prior to the auction would be my guess.
Bryce
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Post by TurTLe on Feb 22, 2011 22:23:55 GMT -6
I know what you mean on the Kansas coyotes ksboy. I had two up there since 2008 that have been graded as flat every auction since then. This auction they graded semi-heavy and one brought $37, and the other brought $28.
How they grew fur in the last two years is beyond me, but I won't complain on the prices.
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Post by seldom on Feb 23, 2011 11:18:20 GMT -6
One of the downfalls of selling through the two auctions is some of the abbreviations they use when grading, especially coyotes. This is the 1st year I've ever seen the abbreviation "PT" before used in place of "GD"(prime) or "AVG"(over prime).
I've contacted NAFA and I hope I get an answer as to what "PT" means. Got my answer for the "PT as in coyote, damaged grade- ( 1-4 PT GC NTH) The “PT” is an abbreviation for ”Part” which refers to the color description; DBR PT GC which would read “Dark Brown part Good Color”. Regards, Brian |
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Post by garman on Feb 23, 2011 11:38:13 GMT -6
I know what you mean on the Kansas coyotes ksboy. I had two up there since 2008 that have been graded as flat every auction since then. This auction they graded semi-heavy and one brought $37, and the other brought $28. How they grew fur in the last two years is beyond me, but I won't complain on the prices.  ;D |
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Post by trappnman on Feb 23, 2011 16:10:49 GMT -6
I took a chance and kept my last bit of fur until today- wanted to see if the auction increased my prices or did not. Unfortunately, it did not, but not disastrously so I'm satisfied.
This is from fur caught after January 15th-
very tuff grade, no nose counts today-
top rats brought $8, but had 30% mediums & a few SD- and those were $4 rats- true average $5.79. Lowest average I sold in 4 trips. My average for the year was about $6.60. High average first sale mid Dec, $7.20. Put up.
I was ok on the mink for what they were- all late caught, springy- $16 males, $9 females. put up. Average $13.33 not sure years average, but previous prices were $18-20 males, $12 females
coon wasn't what I wanted- but off colors and size hurt- sold at $16, $11 and $9- true average of $12.57. Years average $15+ a few cents. Green
only a few beaver- green- $18 and $8 for a kit. slightly up from $15 and $5 from earlier sales
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Post by packerfan on Feb 24, 2011 8:46:06 GMT -6
Pat..........The taxidermists I sell to mount or tan (wallhangers) the coon. One guy has a good outlet for wallhangers. They really like the reddish-orange coon. These tend to come off the same farms every year. So, I'm assumming it's genetics. Later this season, I let Tom pick out the ones he did NOT want and offered them to taxis. If their orders were full, I kept them for my own colllection, rather than take $4/6 for a nice prime coon. I get dark, REALLY dark coons as well. But, I have only caught one TRUE fisher coon in my life. I tanned him for myself.
Steve........... My late season coon were 50/50......nice/scrappy springy......So that makes sense to me. Not too bad on mink. I did worse after the FHA sale. I should have held off.
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Post by longrangekilla on Feb 24, 2011 17:22:35 GMT -6
I was able to sell a white possum for 75 and traded a cinnamon for 100.00 off a fish I was having mounted. You must know the right guy because the ones I know only want really odd colors for mounts. I am really happy with my coyote average (over 40.00) and really excited to see what they bring in May where I have the best and most of mine. I foolishly chose not to skin 9 or 10 thinking that they were worthless.
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