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Post by Stef on Jun 7, 2004 19:32:07 GMT -6
I'm not a big mink trapper but I like to installed a few traps every year for them.
I'm curious to hear what is your prefered mink traps drowning rig?
Personally, I prefer a long chain on my mink traps.
Stef
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Post by woody on Jun 7, 2004 19:34:39 GMT -6
A #110 body gripper ;D A long chain on some traps or an extention wire. or I use a slider.
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Post by Stef on Jun 7, 2004 19:37:59 GMT -6
Woody, what is your prefered mink traps drowning rig? Stef
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Post by dj88ryr on Jun 7, 2004 19:40:35 GMT -6
Two feet of chain and then wired to a brick, very effective and initial costs are cheap. Getting the bricks out and in is a little work, but it works great, the bricks with the 3 holes in them were made for mink drowning ;D
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Post by woody on Jun 7, 2004 20:01:04 GMT -6
Same set up as my coon rig, A #1.5 on an 18 inch chain on a #14 ga. wire with a weight at the end. Is that what you want? I am confused ;D I had a bad day at work. I'll send ya a pic of the whole set up after I get that furst mink on your lure That's my prefered set up, as I am a multi trapper and want those rats and coon also, around here one would die if they want after one critter with one set up and another with a different set up. I like the KISS system.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 7, 2004 20:25:08 GMT -6
If using big enough traps- s least a 1.5 coil- a piece of 14 gauge wire staked to bottom is as good as any- fast and efficient.
set all my mink rigs like that. Long chains are just too much weight on mink- too much walking- at least the way I do it...
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Post by Stef on Jun 7, 2004 21:05:18 GMT -6
Yeah trappnman but I've found that some rats don't want a drowned with wire like you do.
Had problems in the past.
Stef
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Post by trappnman on Jun 7, 2004 21:20:26 GMT -6
You have problem drowning rats? What size trap and how deep water?
a 1.5 or bigger in at least 3 feet of slow water or 2 feet of fast water will take down any rat I catch.
forget the tangle stick- I wire to rebar and push into bottom- about 4 feet wire.
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Post by Stef on Jun 7, 2004 21:30:00 GMT -6
Yes Steve "I had some problem".
Some I can remember did not want to go in deep water and you know the rest. Most of the time if I could remember correctly, it happened with 1½ long spring trap.
Stef
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Post by foxtail on Jun 7, 2004 22:29:50 GMT -6
I couldn't drive a stake in them with C-4.
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That is when sand bags come in handy. I have a few streams like that too. All glacial rock and boulders.
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Post by musher on Jun 8, 2004 6:41:00 GMT -6
Steph: If I'm not mistaken, you must have a lock on a slide wire to be legal here. Kind of silly as mink are easy to dispatch. If they are in a couple of inches of water hypothermia gets them. Rats are much tougher.
Where you're trapping I guess you must always assume a coon could come along.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 8, 2004 7:03:08 GMT -6
Don't get me wromngf- I jave live rats- but only when I am in water under 2 feet. Otherwise- wire almost tight to deep water....down they go.
But if you need slides- then the easyist is a brick on the bottom (or stone in chicken wire, sand bag, brake rotor, etc) with a top stake or fastened to roots, bushes ,etc.
Cause on rats/mink there is a lot of resetting- and this way no bottom stake to pull. Pull up whole mess, slide trap back up, toss in and reset.
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Post by mustelameister on Jun 8, 2004 10:42:48 GMT -6
Four feet of 3/32" ACC, POGO washer on one end, the other is attached through the top of a wooden stake. Trap is S-linked to drowner lock. Good for soft bottom substrates only. POGO is useless on rock.
Real quick: set trap, POGO washer into bottom, bring wooden stake up to shoreline 'till cable is taught, push in with boot. Bed trap. Maybe . . . 10 seconds?
Got 5-gallon pails of these all rigged to go prior to season, with trap already S-linked. To keep them from tangling with others, I use a short piece of 16 ga wire and wrap the coiled cable, stake and trap together.
Most pails are marked for four-footers. Another pail has eight-footers.
Simple, efficient, resuable, and everything out-of-sight, including the mink.
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Post by Stef on Jun 8, 2004 13:33:40 GMT -6
No musher.
A long chain with a heavy trap ;D... tangled stick or on floats etc... is considered as a humane drowning system for mink and rat and legal here.
Law don't say a lock attached to a drowning wire.
Stef
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Post by Bubber on Jun 8, 2004 17:11:20 GMT -6
The few i have caught in footholds were always just a #1 longspring on long chain.
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Post by NittanyLion on Jun 8, 2004 18:43:37 GMT -6
I find it easy to drown mink, I would estimate that at least 95% of the mink I catch are drowned. I use a rig like DJ described. I also use window sash weights. I find by having two feet of chain and another two feet of wire attached to the chain I can almost always get my rig to water anywhere from 3-4 inches to a couple of feet deep. I pre-wire my traps to the weights before season and that makes for quick setting.
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Post by dj88ryr on Jun 8, 2004 19:42:55 GMT -6
Ninny is very efficient with his set ups. I am incorporating his sytle hookup wire this year, I saw it's advantages last season, wherever we went, we had the traps set and on our way in minutes, very quick runnin and gunnin.
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Post by Hern on Jun 9, 2004 3:32:56 GMT -6
Stef, I use 3'-4' of light weight chain attached to small light weight 2 prone grapple. I place grapple in water then put a rock on top. Mink/Muskrat never move rock. When trapping dry land, grapple can be 'hooked' in roots, briars or saplings. I tried many methods and this has proven fast and light weight. Hern, talk with ya at the Rendezvous.
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Post by CoonDuke on Aug 12, 2004 6:40:37 GMT -6
Stef, I have a new method of anchoring water traps that I am going to try this year. I'm not going to post about it until I try it on the trapline. There are a few things that could go wrong and I want to make sure they won't.
I like long chains as well. Coon go high and tangle, rats go for a swim.
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Post by T-Bar on Aug 12, 2004 8:19:10 GMT -6
Not that I have an expert opinion to offer, but last year the 2 that we caught (yes only 2) drowned themselves in only 1 or 2 feet of water.
All we used were long chains with a tangle stick in the middle of the stream. Seemed to work great on the small stream.
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