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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 25, 2006 18:56:34 GMT -6
Drving through some country today, had the old light bulb go on in the ole brain. I suddenly knew, and it was obvious, the difference in a creek and a river- at least here in my area, for mink trapping. Why I don't like rivers and love creeks. Why rivers are more difficult..
Any thoughts?
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Post by BK on Feb 25, 2006 19:37:29 GMT -6
I like it where they "come together,........right now." ;D
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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 25, 2006 19:40:03 GMT -6
you nut! you nailed it.
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Post by lumberjack on Feb 25, 2006 21:37:05 GMT -6
Why I dont like rivers but like creeks....because I like where they come together....... OK ya lost me, I dont get it.
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Post by dj88ryr on Feb 25, 2006 21:55:22 GMT -6
When I set up those intersections of a river and a creek, I usually will set 4 pockets and maybe a blind set or two. If you had a boat to run the river and just set up the creek intersections with the river, you would probably take most of the mink with out having to set the aqreas in between. I look for those intersections on topo maps before starting to scout.
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Post by billkasten on Feb 26, 2006 7:03:24 GMT -6
The river here has one major problem .Water fluctuation ,I'm talking feet over night .But if your gonna play you gotta pay. I agree with DJ on the intersections being hot spots for mink and coon .
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2006 8:14:32 GMT -6
you guys all missed it...except for bk. try again? Bill, you are close...but water flucation in trapping season isn't a concern here.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Feb 26, 2006 8:21:41 GMT -6
"come together" Beatles? ;D
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2006 8:34:13 GMT -6
come on...BK gave away the answer...
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Post by BK on Feb 26, 2006 10:04:38 GMT -6
Let's take this a little farther Steve, on creeks that don't connect water sheds,......... that "spring" up from the ground I catch more male mink the closer I set them up to the river or lake they run into. I trust you can identify with this,.........
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Post by billkasten on Feb 26, 2006 10:08:34 GMT -6
Theft ? Worse here on creeks . Silt maybe acsess ?
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Post by bankrunner on Feb 26, 2006 10:15:42 GMT -6
In my area, I feel mink stick to the smaller waterways(creeks) because they know "their" area better. The females are on these creeks to raise there young without the worry of constant water fluctuations. Another reason I like creeks is because you can access more areas and better locations that mink have a decent chance of going by your sets. My limited experiences only.
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Post by billkasten on Feb 26, 2006 10:45:40 GMT -6
I've got it finally you were short boots lol.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2006 11:13:55 GMT -6
well maybe BK didn't hit it.
Not location- of course I set up near intersections.
More basic- what makes a "river" a river, and a "creek" a creek?
I'll give you a little more chance to see if you hit it......
Bks first answer had a good hint, but maybe he doesn't know he knows...LOL
Bill gave a second hint...
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Post by dj88ryr on Feb 26, 2006 11:17:05 GMT -6
I think that creeks may be more suitable hunting locations for mink, because of water depth etc. The inlets of streams into rivers are always hot spots for fishing, why not for mink, they are hunting after all.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2006 12:07:23 GMT -6
I was hoping I could tease a few more guys to respond...
My revelation was simply this- as BK alluded to, although not in the same way, is that everything comes together on streams, on rivers they do not.
(Remember, I am talking upper Mississippi, and rivers and streams that flow into it. Your conditions might be different)
On streams, habitat goes to the water's edge. It all comes together. On rivers, it doesn't. On rivers, because of the longer duration of high water, you have a buffer zone if you will. A strip of 4-? feet of sand, mud, rock... so that you really have TWO habitats. With that buffer inbetween.
And THATS why I don't like trapping rivers.
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Post by lumberjack on Feb 26, 2006 12:34:47 GMT -6
I think I got it- You are saying a creek has only a waterline / bank and a river has a waterline / beach / bank? The animal is more confined and less area to find a blind set?
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2006 13:12:13 GMT -6
[/img] sounds simple- but its the designing reason as to wHY I prefer creeks.
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Post by DaveLyons on Feb 26, 2006 15:31:49 GMT -6
Tman,
I see what you are saying. I was doing some talking to a old minker. The only advice he would give me about mink trapping is simple. He told me to start up a water shed as far as I could then move down the shed till I hit the main river and I should end my season down by the river. So far I see this logic. I don't know if this is where you where going but I thought I would give the 2 cent giving to me about mink trapping.
Dave
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Post by Clefus on Feb 26, 2006 18:01:58 GMT -6
Maybe a related thought.... Water fluctuation is more dramatic the closer to the river or larger body than on the feeders...
ie if we get heavy rains.....a small creek goes up and down in the same day where as a bigger system may take days or weeks to go down....sets remain active and need less attention...
Also I see where the habitat edge on the "creeks" would funnel more...as Steve stated...
Maybe Im off base...??
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