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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 5, 2005 13:44:49 GMT -6
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Post by Bubber on May 5, 2005 14:21:36 GMT -6
They are truly an unimaginly tough animal. I caught a great big male one time that was missing a front leg at about the same place that one is. He was one of the fattest and hardest skinning coyotes I have ever seen, fleshing him I filled a 2lb coffee can twice. He looked like a jackle. I was having a terrible time with a digger at the time. Tales of its exploits made other trappers stare in disbelife. Once I caught him, all problems stopped.
They will definetly be here long after the people are gone.
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Post by gunny on May 5, 2005 15:48:47 GMT -6
Catch her in a foot snare?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 5, 2005 16:04:00 GMT -6
No #3 bridger modified, no coyote fights as hard as the mangy buggars, I have never seen such foot damage in 24 years outside of mangy coyotes, they fight a trap like nothing else in this world. 90% of my really mangy coyotes will fight to the death and have terrible looking feet, it's like they know the outcome. This one bent the dog into a pretzel and the beefer springs blown off the spring pin and one end of the spring pin bent at 45 degrees. I noticed the poor hold and put her down from aways away. Doesn't matter trap type they all fight extremely hard when they have the mange bad.
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Post by bobwendt on May 5, 2005 17:24:58 GMT -6
here is the reason mange coyotes" fight harder" #1 by spring all the pups with mange from last year are dead already from winter kill, so basically you are catching 2-3 year olds that fight harder ,mange or not. #2 pup or adult, the feet get bare and devoid of hair and the skin thickened and friable (tears-splits easy) so the foot self destructs easier than a healthy coyote. #3 mange coyotes tend to hunt more during the day so are in the traps longer from being day caught, be it a 24 hr ck or a 3 day ck. They day hunt because they are hungrier from lessened hunting success and to take advantage of warmer temps- the more severe the mange the higher % day hunters. But I don`t think the mange in itself makes anything fight harder, probably less as they aren`t up to full steam but debilitated to some degree. Even with softcatch on 24 hr or less runs , on severe baldys there is generally a cut the whole width of the foot cross ways down to the 4 bones showing. A bullet in the head is the only choice.
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Post by Danny Clifton on May 5, 2005 17:52:13 GMT -6
This one had been living in a stackyard to keep warm and eating insulage. Even a coyote don't deserve mange.
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Post by Furhandler on May 5, 2005 17:59:12 GMT -6
This one had been living in a stackyard to keep warm and eating insulage. Even a coyote don't deserve mange. That looks like Bob's $2.00 NAFA Coyote. LOL
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Post by Stef on May 5, 2005 18:13:28 GMT -6
I think I heard him saying... The coyote had nice fur
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Post by blakcoyote on May 5, 2005 18:17:31 GMT -6
That looks like Bob's $2.00 NAFA Coyote. LOL Are you sure it looked that good.
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Post by bobwendt on May 5, 2005 18:40:37 GMT -6
you guys!
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 5, 2005 21:47:02 GMT -6
good info Bob!!! I won't give the coyote undue credit but I can tell by set area, that mangy coyotes are the hardest fighters even in winter I had 2 dead on arrival this past winter 24 hr check for BMP. All coyotes go down in the heat come summer, they just don't last long. This one body wise was really pretty healthy outside the mange and the blown off leg LOL.
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Post by gunny on May 5, 2005 22:18:04 GMT -6
Is there a biological mechanism that prevents gray fox from getting mange? Coarser hair, perhaps?
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Post by bobwendt on May 6, 2005 4:51:39 GMT -6
gunny, they are just immune to it. I can`t give you a scientific reason why. heck, bad as they stink the mites probably just think they taste bad. I tried to eat one once and let me tell you, it can`t be done!
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Post by thefoxtrapper on May 6, 2005 5:48:37 GMT -6
i love the smell of a gray fox in a trap doing the dance and snarling, probably one of the biggest thrills I still get on the line....but bob, i dont think i would even think of trying a gray fox unless starving, thanks for the tip, hahahaha...
w
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Post by bobwendt on May 6, 2005 6:05:24 GMT -6
you can kiss off otter, mink, badger, red fox and coyote too. I`ve tried them all and non are fit. A grey I don`t think even starving it would go down easy. Just try boiling one and it will run you out of the house.
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Post by trappnman on May 6, 2005 6:19:36 GMT -6
Bob- you will find this hard to believe- but some people actually LIKE eating zuccini of all things!
wonder why dog is a delicacy in some parts of the world-but wild canines are not?
I bet all could be made into jerky that would taste fine- I've made jerky out of just about everything else- and aside from texture- its all about the same.
It also amnazes me how many animals can live and grow fat- with injuries and disabilites that make you shake your head. Of course, with them as in coyotes, you don't see all the ones that fell by the wayside. I once trapped a coyote that had the entire top of the jaw shot off- and she was fat, healthy and sassy.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 6, 2005 6:28:22 GMT -6
Bob you are wrong On the being able to eat red fox. When my buddy was In the fur farm thing I use to do his skinning . we sold every carcass to some Japanse resturant.and the parking lot was allways full LOL Maybe tame Versus wild made a difference, but I don't think so.
Beav
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Post by bobwendt on May 6, 2005 7:12:43 GMT -6
you didn`t see my truck in that parking lot! Mine were all wild and not fatty like ranch fox. I actually got about 1/2 a red ate before I just couldn`t take anymore. The grey smelled so bad ( that goat smell they have) that I couldn`t even put a bite in my mouth as I was near wretching just smelling it cook. And that was when I was young and poor and lived on possum and coon , rat, beaver and roadkill deer.
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Post by vttrapper on May 6, 2005 10:38:55 GMT -6
I steaked out a coyote leg once, and bob is right. The smell comming off the pan was terrible. Never did try to eat it. Beaver tastes great we eat all i catch, and squash is great food, suprised Steve could say such a thing frank
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Post by bobwendt on May 6, 2005 11:39:37 GMT -6
a lot of wild game is the old carp on an oak plank deal- salt and peper, tack on plank, smoke for 12 hrs bla bla, turn 12 times etc etc. In the end you throw away the carp and eat the oak plank. Long as we are at it. For the life of me I don`t know why anything would eat a jackrabbit. You can deep fry a baby and it still is like eating dry sawdust after a green persimmon.
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