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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 7:03:04 GMT -6
Tman you are an extremist just like BLM and other fringe groups. Look at the numbers of people killed by officers in a year, then looking at black on black crime and white on white crime and one will see both outweigh those killed by police officers many,many fold. It is easy for some to sit on the sidelines who have never lived and worked in law enforcement, not all areas are the same. Split second decisions made and very often those asked to cooperate with polic instructions not doing that and things escalate quickly.
Easy for you to say police are the last people you would trust LMAO, where would YOU be without police in your town or state? Where would anyone else be in a lawless nation? Again you want to talk about the smallest of the smallest numbers, but no one wants to talk about the black on black crime, the black on white crime or thr white on white crime stats and how that is far far more of a problem in this country. Why? Because there is no shock and awe and no race baiting to be had.
Strap on a gun and a badge and go work east St. Louis or Southern KC and see how your mentally changes, we had a local sheriffs officers killed in the line of duty a month or so ago over on the Kansas side over by the race track, the guy nuts and killed him before the officer could do much of anything. This happens far more than the shootings you wish to complain about, the cops are supposed to be more gentile , yet the perps are more and more violent all the time. People do not follow orders like they used to when it comes to law enforcement, that is a fact they think the main stream media and other pegs will protect them when it comes time, follow,the orders and most things will,work out for,the best. Easy and simple.
All walks of life have bad apples. You or anyone else will never change that to be a zero number. Specially in settings where one is dealing with the unknown or past criminals and people not obeying orders given to get to the bottom of things. The pint the main stream nevers wants to talk about is the FACTS, in many of these cases what has been reported has been false, Big Mike on his knees begging for,his life 1000000000 percent BS. And others as well. Once the truth comes out the main stream media is on to the next shock and awe.
Keep crying wolf to many times and it will at some point fall on deaf ears.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 8:53:08 GMT -6
if you strap on a badge, then you leave your prejudices behind.
if you take the pay to be honest and to protect and serve- the do it- or take off the badge
Strap on a gun and a badge and go work east St. Louis or Southern KC and see how your mentally changes
then get off the govt paytoll, and get a PRIVATE SECTOR job
I'm full of it- well BROTHER the WACO police murdered 9 bikers. The police in town after town, has murdered innocents. Don't take my word for it- watch the freaking videos!!!!!!!!!
those are facts- and the fact is I don't trust any police, until they show they can be trusted
of course cops shouldn't be shot- but they shouldn't be judge and jury either
cops today, think they are above the law.
what do the cops do for me?
nothing.
nothing they can do, or could do.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 8:54:33 GMT -6
and talk about being an extremist? some as racist as you are, has zero room to talk
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 9:31:30 GMT -6
The Waco shootings of bikers started over a patch , grow up people. You have over 200 arrested, 100 guns confiscated , many by those who should not have guns , in a public place and you want to place the blame on the police? Ok. Rival bikers with a less than lawful,past I might add. Pulling guns over a patch? Ok.
If you think police do nothing for you then think about what our crime rates would be without them, Tman and his handgun would not stand a chance in places like Minneapolis, St. Louis, KC, Chicago or many other areas in the country.
When was the last time you where in KC or St Louis Tman? It is because of police presence in large numbers that keep areas of those towns safe. That is a fact. St. Louis downtown would be unfit to walk aprons safely without the presences of a strong police force. East St. Louis is a 5 minute drive, look into that area and see what the numbers are on jobs, gangs,drugs,shootings. Downtown police in St Louis and KC make it safe for people to go to work, attend events and have some safety in these areas, that without police would become desolate and unlivable. Those are the facts.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 10:31:12 GMT -6
sorry- you don't have a clue not even an inkling of one
your "FACTS" are bullshit and trust me I know far, far more on this issue than you do- including being IN the C of C.
so enough
I don't hate police- I just don't trust them. I see, and have been involved in profiling. It happens every day. so don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 11:14:45 GMT -6
Sure profiling happens every day and it should, yes that is right it should. That keeps people safe and not turning a blind eye to the obvious many times.
I know a guy local that had 3 DUI's in less than 3 years in the state of Kansas he actually tried to sue for profiling him LMAO. Of course he was his own legal person in his case, if you get picked up for drunk driving and the same police or those police that know your past see you drive away from a bar and crsooing the center line or other issues, then they will pull you over again, you can see that all you want as profiling, I see that as someone with zero lack of judgement for others being vary dangerous and not learning from his or her lesson, by profiling and pulling this guy over lives are saved, to turn a blind eye and say well " we can't profile this guy" lacks common sense and lack of judgement on the part of any police officer.
Those that run with the bad crowds are going to be looked upon with a closer eye as well they should, imagine no profiling in our country with terrorism from the Middle East? Good luck on that.
The facts in the case are Tman, groups of bikers shooting guns and not 1-3 but well over 100 hundred taken into custody unless the news is full of it? Places like CNN,MSNBC, Texas itself etc.
There was a shooting a few years back in the hills durring thr rally 2 biker gangs that did not see eye to eye and the shooting took place, over what? Turf, a patch etc. what could one person do for another to want to shoot him in natures of this type? silly is all it is.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 17:17:50 GMT -6
Sure profiling happens every day and it should, yes that is right it should
could you be any more racist?
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 17:21:38 GMT -6
The facts in the case are Tman, groups of bikers shooting guns and not 1-3 but well over 100 hundred taken into custody unless the news is full of it? Places like CNN,MSNBC, Texas itself etc.
I'm getting really pissed off at you posting bs as fact. You do not have a clue- it was not over a patch, and the "weapons" were laughable )wallet chains, pen knifes, pliers, etc) plus yes guns - you support C&C right? oh wait- just for you.
the good Sgt Swanson is a murderer- and a lair, and a man deep in a coverup. I hope the lawsuits break the bank in Waco.
and this is the last warning- I'm not going to debate this with someone with zero knowledge except news snippets.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 19:07:35 GMT -6
Because I believe in profiling for the betterment and safety of people I am a racist? Ok. Tell me how exactly?
There is a reason profiling is used, and not all has to do with race.
There is profiling in prisons and it is very legal, tattoos alone can get an inmate in trouble if it has Gang affiliation, no matter the color of such persons involved. Even though 99.9 percent of them will tell the officers no my tats are not to do with any gang LOL.
So all prisons are racist? I think not.
Why do you think ISIS likes to recruit non Middle East people to their group? They know profiling has worked to help lesson the chances of attacks on our soils, our very govt profiles emails that come from the Middle East in areas that are known to be involved in terrorist activities, again profiling. Without such work wonder how many more attacks on our soil there would be?
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Post by trappnman on Sept 6, 2016 6:11:21 GMT -6
yes, profiling is racist.
your words make you out to be one as well. and that's fine- just own it.
oh wait- you know better than the FBI, so am assuming you know better than the courts as well.
TC- a one man band.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 17:13:57 GMT -6
So every prison in the USA is racist then? My gawd we need to call the civil liberties union and start a suit against every state in the nation for profiling in every state prison system in the nation then.
With then we would have to have a law suit against our very own federal govt who also does profiling in many,many,many cases when it comes to emails, tapping phone lines and investigation work as well. Because they all use a form of profiling again not hard to understand why.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 7, 2016 6:21:38 GMT -6
#1 selling jersey in the NFL
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 7, 2016 16:01:04 GMT -6
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Post by trappnman on Sept 8, 2016 6:45:05 GMT -6
it means even though you don't believe in the Constitution, others do
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 8, 2016 16:07:41 GMT -6
I don't believe in the constitution because I disagree with you and the left? OK? You do not believe in the constitution becaus we are a sovereign nation look up,the definition, you also do not believe in the 2nd amendment either as your for candidates who seek to limit those rights afforded to every citizen in good standing in this country. Easy to throw labels around.
You base his morality on NFL jersey sales I choose to base it on something far different than the NFL making bank. Wonder what the exact number of jerseys sold where or are? And how that works out percentage wise to the football viewing population in the US?
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Post by trappnman on Sept 11, 2016 12:41:55 GMT -6
whoa big feller-
you agree with the constitution- but not f the free speech part of it?
ok- whatever you say
ps- was I out of town when YOU got elected morality police?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 11, 2016 16:05:48 GMT -6
Not none of the above just have a lot of common sense is all.
Free speech is great, but along with it comes some responsibilities as well.
Just ask those who sign up for the military and how they must act when the national anthem or flag is displayed..............
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Post by trappnman on Sept 12, 2016 8:22:08 GMT -6
I don't care what anyone does if what they do, does not affect me
Most veterans, feel the same way.
so you think there should be limits on amendments
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 12, 2016 18:29:23 GMT -6
Show me the facts where MOST veterans feel the same way? I do not believe that for one second. As all of those veterans had to follow US orders when it came to the national anthem while in service.
Funny how our national,govt has placed a code of conduct while the anthem is played, yet Sports teams don't have the nads to do the same? Except for a few.
No limits on amendments that is a left thing, like our 2nd amendment and the limits they try to put on.
What these guys are doing is not doing anything for their cause when it does then I will be for the sitting and such. Show me the proof of change with their antics.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 12, 2016 19:04:27 GMT -6
yes, people do things under orders.
No limits on amendments that is a left thing, like our 2nd amendment and the limits they try to put on. YOU said amendments have responsibilities. please- PLEASE elaborate. for once, just to humor me- actually stay on point.
so again, if you don't agree with someone- they MUST be wrong- because YOU must be right?
You truly feel you are the morality judge of other free men?
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