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Post by FWS on Dec 12, 2012 11:13:16 GMT -6
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Post by FWS on Dec 12, 2012 12:01:20 GMT -6
I suppose polygamy is an option, round up enough fertile young women, build your fortified compound somewhere really remote, and commence to making lots of babies you can raise in your own image. By 2035 or so you'd collectively have at least an extra electoral vote. Maybe. Kinda like the Dr. Strangelove solution, where Peter Sellers character arose from his wheelchair and suggested they all head to the underground bunkers with several young women each to start rebuilding society.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 12, 2012 13:15:11 GMT -6
Problem is the angry white guys are angry with the Republicans because they act like Democrats.
I make no apologies for being a white guy, something wrong with that?
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Post by C1972 on Dec 12, 2012 20:28:40 GMT -6
I suppose polygamy is an option, round up enough fertile young women, build your fortified compound somewhere really remote, and commence to making lots of babies you can raise in your own image. By 2035 or so you'd collectively have at least an extra electoral vote. Maybe. Kinda like the Dr. Strangelove solution, where Peter Sellers character arose from his wheelchair and suggested they all head to the underground bunkers with several young women each to start rebuilding society. Just ask Mittens, he has binders full of qualified women.
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Post by James on Dec 13, 2012 1:25:21 GMT -6
I thought the angry white guys were going to secede.
Jim
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Post by trappnman on Dec 13, 2012 8:07:00 GMT -6
I hope the GOP stays exactly how they are, indeed, I hope they turn back the clock even more
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Post by C1972 on Dec 13, 2012 9:45:25 GMT -6
I hope the GOP stays exactly how they are, indeed, I hope they turn back the clock even more Thumbs up there Steve. Especially now with all the states refusing to go along with the ACA exchange mandate, the GOTP is unwittingly taking us one step closer to a single payer system with every state that refuses. WELL DONE! ;D
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 13, 2012 11:45:08 GMT -6
Yeah, our supposedly Republican Governor was the first to cave in.
You guys have it good, the Republicans have come around to your way of thinking.
I'm too old to change, I intend to do it my way until somebody forces a confrontation.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 13, 2012 16:44:14 GMT -6
Joel- surely you are old enough, to remember real conservatives- some of them were great leaders, and thinkers.
and they are still there- but hey are afraid to speak out- seeing what the radical wing does to moderates in the primarys-
if I subscribed to REAL conservatives values, which I do in many aspects- then one should be hopping mad at the voices so strident in todays conservative wing
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Post by bblwi on Dec 13, 2012 16:53:04 GMT -6
Walker in WI did the same. Campaigned strongly against Obama Care and when he had a chance to show state leadership and work on our behalf chose to let the feds do it. No even thought of taking any responsibility and thus no blame either however. Political cowards are no better nor worse than any coward I guess.
Bryce
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Post by James on Dec 13, 2012 18:35:09 GMT -6
Bryce, our GOP governor did the same thing.
Steve, I agree with almost all of your last post. But how could those old-style Republicans be GREAT leaders if they're afraid to speak out?
I'm afraid the great ones are all gone.
Jim
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Post by Jarhead620 on Dec 14, 2012 14:21:03 GMT -6
Many of them were of the Greatest Generation who fought and won World War !!. They have been replaced by sorry substitutes like Senators Graham and McConnell, and Congressmen Bohener and Cantor.
I'm cursed with having Eric Cantor as my Congressman.
Larry
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 14, 2012 17:39:19 GMT -6
I don't have any use for the Republicans, but none for the Dems either.
I went to a lobbying school this summer. Can't say that I learned a lot that I didn't already know but had several things validated.
One was that legislators have very little if any interest in single issues brought to them.
What they are interested in is who you bring, specifically who you bring in their district.
Everybody seems surprised about that and rails against it but It is how the system is set up.
It's a representative form of Government. Right now the masses of votes on both coasts and the upper midwest are liberal. That swings the country.
I'm not sure how conservative the red states really are any more either.
My fear is what I see in my industry, the free market doesn't work any more. The banks dictate the terms now. I don't even get to negotiate a commission any more they tell us what it's going to be.
They tell us what the price is going to be, what repairs will be done, etc. etc. etc.
I think in another generation the youth in this country won't remember what a free market was and how it functions.
Farmers don't operate in a free market for the most part, subsidies and crp and all that stuff.
America is going down the road that appears to be inevitable in human society.
One program begets another and before long more money is being spent than is being earned.
It's perverse when you think about it.
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Post by PamIsMe on Dec 14, 2012 20:15:18 GMT -6
"I don't even get to negotiate a commission any more they tell us what it's going to be. "
Did you get a commission from the banks aranging the loans as well as from the person whose house you sold?
Just curious, Pam
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Post by trappnman on Dec 15, 2012 7:45:37 GMT -6
One was that legislators have very little if any interest in single issues brought to them.
What they are interested in is who you bring, specifically who you bring in their district.
Everybody seems surprised about that and rails against it but It is how the system is set up.
yes and no Joel- doesn't it all depend on the quality of those elected?
the more local the official, the more apt to actually represent indivduals.
I am curious though- you are so for a free market, yet you are against majority rule- and ruling by majority, is free market at its purest
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 15, 2012 9:08:27 GMT -6
Who said I was against majority rule?
Pam, for the first 25 years I was in the business I was told that I would go to prison if I "fixed" my Commission rate and colluded with other brokers to do the same. Anti trust they called it.
Now when I list a short sale it is now fixed at 3% by guidelines the Government and the banks have decided is how much it's gonna be.
Seems like the Government lives under different rules than the rest of us. Kind of like the congress and president with their own healthcare and social security systems that are different than ours.
Aristocracy and serfdom. How do you like being a serf? I don't.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 15, 2012 9:35:35 GMT -6
as the result of elections, you are going to 'drop out" "not be for them" etc-
majority rules- yet you refuse to acknowledge that majority- if one believed in majority rules then one would be a good citizen and patriot, and work to change the leadership in the next election if displeased with the results of this one.
not take your ball and go home............
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 15, 2012 10:49:22 GMT -6
I may work to change next election if anybody viable appears, until then my way of working for change is to oppose those in power and work against them in every way possible.
I consider that to be patriotic.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 15, 2012 11:01:09 GMT -6
opposing those in power with different ideas is one thing, working wholesale so that "their" programs are unsuccessful, hurts no one but the Republic.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 15, 2012 11:06:51 GMT -6
I counter that those in power are hurting the Republic, it's bigger this time.
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