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Post by Steve Gappa on Nov 9, 2010 7:33:11 GMT -6
the next one to post in a manner designed to get a thread axed, will in turn be axed- considered yourself warned with a first, last and final warning
now back to fast skinning coyotes.
I was as skeptic as anyone- didn't know if the "bother" would be worth it but I'm a believer now after having a few under my belt this way
the difference between skining right away vs waiting til one gets home- is night and day x10.
I don;t have the strength I once had, but even I can pull 99% of the coyotes from the rear legs to the front shoulders, in one quick pull- a few big old dogs take me a bit longer-
not only is the skining quick, but just not having to haul carcasses back and forth is priceless
clean up is quicker than I thought-- a little water and wipes, and on ot the next stop
if you haven't tried it- you should- its like skinning a deer quick, vs waitng a day or more
I just then roll up pelt, and put them into a big garbage bag until we get home
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Post by kspanky on Nov 9, 2010 10:39:48 GMT -6
sounds like a good idae i don't have a skinner on my truck like you do but i can get them home pretty quick and skin them(if i catch one) can you post how you skin one?hopefully tomorrow I will catch one i've skinned plenty of deer beleive me so i think i can skin a coyote thanks so much for all your advice.kspanky
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Post by okphyne on Nov 9, 2010 11:19:25 GMT -6
A local man over 80 whose been calling and shooting coyotes all his life skins them immediately.He ties their back feet together and throws them over the top of a fence post then he makes his cuts and peels the skin off .Since he's weaker than he used to be he ties a rope to the skin,wraps it around his waist and backs away from the post ,pulling off the skin and skinning where needed.he can do it faster than I typed this.
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Post by redeagle on Nov 9, 2010 11:53:19 GMT -6
What about your pants getting soiled and scented with carcass odors? How does that effect your remakes and new settings when kneeling at the set? I'd think those odors from your clothes at the set would stimulate rolling and digging. Does this come into play at all?
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Post by makete on Nov 9, 2010 13:45:20 GMT -6
A local man over 80 whose been calling and shooting coyotes all his life skins them immediately.He ties their back feet together and throws them over the top of a fence post then he makes his cuts and peels the skin off . Since he's weaker than he used to be he ties a rope to the skin,wraps it around his waist and backs away from the post ,pulling off the skin and skinning where needed.he can do it faster than I typed this. Great idea. Thanks for the tip!
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Post by garman on Nov 9, 2010 13:47:41 GMT -6
What about your pants getting soiled and scented with carcass odors? How does that effect your remakes and new settings when kneeling at the set? I'd think those odors from your clothes at the set would stimulate rolling and digging. Does this come into play at all? I will also answer this...It does not, I skin all in same overalls I wear the same about every day. I do not have those issues, as well as lure smells etc.
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Post by ksboy2 on Nov 9, 2010 14:13:23 GMT -6
if you're worried about a little coyote blood on your pant leg then you're overthinking things in my opinion... so if i am making a set and a drip of sweat drops off my forehead i should stop immediately and move locations??? NO... LOL i watched a guy making a coyote set spit tobacco juice 5' from the set... 2 days later had a coyote there....
Don't over think scent!
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Post by garman on Nov 9, 2010 14:31:04 GMT -6
I do believe you will or could have problems if you drop lure over the trap pattern, but other than that no!!
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Post by seldom on Nov 9, 2010 14:53:58 GMT -6
I'm with Steve on his "hot-skinning" assessment. This is my 1st year as well skinning in the field and I really like it better then skinning in the shed even with a puller. I will say though, there have been some process design changes! I have a heck of a time being able to just wrap up the hind legs and tail and pull. I can't keep a good grip without help. My help arrived with the double-golf ball/looped rope trick from my fur shed. Now it's one good pull and I'm to the shoulders ready for the big screwdriver to strip the forelegs. One more good pull and I'm ready for the ear cuts. The next glitch occurred at that point. Every cut I make, I make bleeders and bleeders near the ears, eyes, and back of the jaw causes blood to run down onto the pelt both outside and inside. The answer to this for me came in the form of a simple loop of rope. I found that if I half-hitch the rope around the pelt just behind the ears and hook the other end(loop) over my skinning rig's arm I then unhook the carcass and let it hang off the pelt. The weight of the carcass hanging off the head of the pelt lets me finish making my cuts, blood or no blood. With reversing positions I no longer have a soiled or blood-stained fur when I'm done!!! My truck isn't just a "trapping rig", I usually take wifey to lunch a couple times a week in it so I need to keep it "wife-clean" and sanitary as possible. I'm normally wearing hips or waders because I'm running water traps at the same time as my canines, that part is no problem. For my upper body I slip on a Tyvek shop coat over my outer clothes to I don't worry about smearing anything around the inside of my truck's cab and also to keep those little poppers from finding a home in the wool sweaters I wear. This is what I've found works for me but may not for someone else.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 9, 2010 16:36:54 GMT -6
The next glitch occurred at that point. Every cut I make, I make bleeders and bleeders near the ears, eyes, and back of the jaw causes blood to run down onto the pelt both outside and inside.
The answer to this for me came in the form of a simple loop of rope. I found that if I half-hitch the rope around the pelt just behind the ears and hook the other end(loop) over my skinning rig's arm I then unhook the carcass and let it hang off the pelt.
great idea- my rig allows the gambril to move360 (really 180 with truck in way) and I swing it away from old blood- but do get those bleeders on head-
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Post by redeagle on Nov 10, 2010 12:17:34 GMT -6
ksboy2, my question to STEVE was concerning DIGGING and ROLLING due to the scents on pants. I am NOT paranoid about foreign odors at the set. Heck, I even DIP my traps in SPEED DIP!!! (Oh No! Gasp!!! Gasp!!!)
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Post by ksboy2 on Nov 10, 2010 12:23:32 GMT -6
i gotcha beat.. i dip mine in rustoleum paint and gas... hahahahahahaha
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Post by freepop on Nov 10, 2010 17:18:58 GMT -6
Yep Seldom, I started flipping my coyotes last year for the same reason and the exact same way.
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Post by seldom on Nov 10, 2010 17:33:15 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Nov 10, 2010 18:59:59 GMT -6
speed dip= not good
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Post by claythomas on Nov 11, 2010 8:17:43 GMT -6
Thanks Seldom....that's pretty slick right there ;D
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 11, 2010 9:00:27 GMT -6
I did that at every set when I was longlining, never worried about it. Had a three day run of 55 so it didn't seem to matter. In fact I'm not sure it didn't help.
I like having some coyote smell on my hands when setting traps, never wore gloves or used baby wipes.
As for having something to grab onto save the edge on your knife by not circling the hind feet and cutting hair. Just use the weight of the coyote and touch the back hock with the back of your blade. It will crack leaving the foot on the pelt. Gives you a great handhold and no need for golf balls.
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Post by claythomas on Nov 11, 2010 9:44:40 GMT -6
Seldom,
What's the story with the receiver for the front of your truck? Is that something that's store bought or did you just weld a piece of 2" square tubing in there. I pull a quad so my back receiver is out. Thanks.
Clay
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Post by seldom on Nov 11, 2010 11:39:42 GMT -6
Seldom,
What's the story with the receiver for the front of your truck? Is that something that's store bought or did you just weld a piece of 2" square tubing in there. I pull a quad so my back receiver is out. Thanks.Clay Nope, it's a "Seldom-engineering/fab job". The truck has tow loops rather then hooks so I sandwiched them with plate and a piece of bar and tubing between. By the way, see that little orange square thing sticking out near the midpoint of the jib and on the side away from the camera? It's a knife sharpener that I mounted for quick swipes. It's extremely handy to have immediate sharpener access. Since I've always pulled coyote horizontally in the shed, I never had a problem with blood on the fur. I use the golf ball rig there so I just carried it over to the field. A minute to hook the rig up is of no consequence to me but thank you Bushrod for the insight and tip of the broken hock deal.
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Post by FWS on Nov 11, 2010 15:09:51 GMT -6
No reason you cant bolt or weld a bracket or length of pipe to your quad trailer that the base of the skinning rack slips into.
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