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Post by Wright Brothers on Sept 6, 2009 12:53:57 GMT -6
Yellow Jackets inside a wall through a half inch hole in metal siding. I sprayed them last night and thats not working. I have a bee guy that will take bees no charge, but Y Jackets are low priority and wont call him just for those.
Was thinking of taping the shop vac to the hole, turn it on and punch the wall. Will that work? Any suggestions?
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Post by trapperjoemo on Sept 6, 2009 21:33:48 GMT -6
You are on the right track with the vac. but you might just tape it a 1/2" below the hole with the tube pointing up. As the yellow jackets fly in or out of the hole they get sucked in the tube. I use a homemade inline filter that catches the insects so I can freeze them to kill them. If you attach the hose OVER the hole, you better do it in the dark of early morning before any have left the nest. I think you can stir them up at night too, so be carefull, and be fast about securing the hose! Almost forgot to mention... you won`t get them all. The queen is not likely to leave, and she and a bunch of workers who are still hatching will continue to raise the rest of the brood. I often vacuum at least twice, several days or weeks apart to get most of them, then I`ll dig the nest out or do my best to get poison to them. If you decide to plug the hole after some poisoning, try to ensure you are not just forcing them INSIDE. That could get ugly! You might try getting a small tube in the hole to get the poison to the nest, not always easy to do. If you mess with them much at all I bet you get stung. I have a full bee keepers suit and still had one sting my ankle... I should have been wearing high top shoes or boots and tighter pants cuffs too! lol
Joe
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Post by Stef on Sept 7, 2009 9:53:33 GMT -6
Put powder insecticide inside the wall. wait 48 hrs and they're dead!
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Post by northof50 on Sept 11, 2009 19:05:57 GMT -6
Any luck with the yellow jackets ? There is an european species that has emerged in the last 10 years, and people do not recognize it. Larger 2 white stripes on forehead. These colonies over-winter and grow bigger than our native ones, reaching 10,000 by this time of year. Use some tracking powder insecticide, so the outside workers track it through the colony, something like sevin will work. 24-30 hour colony kill. Be prepared 7 days later for freshly emerged wasps to be around coming out of capped cells.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Sept 12, 2009 8:45:57 GMT -6
I did nothing since and here's why. As I said I sprayed but it did not kill them. Day after I posted I noticed new activity in a compost bin. It may be the same ones just moving to a new location since I sprayed? Least I thought it a possability.
I'll let the ones near the garden alone, I think they do good things there.
If the ones inside the building stay, I will shop vac AND powder them. Something about a dead colony of bees INSIDE the wall I don't like.
These may very well be the euros as they seam bigger. First I've heard of that.
No bee expert but did notice when "tame" paper wasps were left alone in the hotbeds aphids were nill those years. The not so tame pissy ones get whacked.
You guys have mentioned later hatches after the kill. I will not plug the entrance because of that.
Thanks guys.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Sept 14, 2009 14:32:14 GMT -6
Will borax or Tero (spelling) work? Going to get warm temps here for a few days and seems it's time.
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Post by Stef on Sept 15, 2009 10:15:40 GMT -6
pyrethrin base powder is best.
Borax works well with ants
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Post by northof50 on Sept 15, 2009 19:31:05 GMT -6
Separate colonies, wasp do not move like honey bees will. On roofing jobs have had colonies 10 feet apart and 4 per side of phausits. Once the powder get tracked in it will kill overwintering queens that try to start up the next year.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Sept 17, 2009 6:17:13 GMT -6
After further observation the ones in the compost seem to be the same group, just were hitting some feed then moved on. They are really working on the apples, which have very little bug damage this year. Also a buck, doe and two fawns working them. Nice to watch.
Didn't wack the bees yet, hate to but I'm thinking they can't stay there.
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Post by northof50 on Sept 21, 2009 23:06:03 GMT -6
Wack them soon as there is 1000 queens for next year ready to go soon in that colony. As the day light gets 12-12 hours, the workers are all produced as Royality, that is why the workers get agressive foraging for high protien now.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Sept 22, 2009 7:35:13 GMT -6
Did the shop vac thing yesterday. Put in an inch deep of water and a good shot of raid in vac. Instead of taping hose to wall I taped it to a long stick so to keep my skin further away.
Let it run for an hour, big action. Then shut it down to give vac a break. Started back up with little action. Then started a push mower and parked it there. Big action again.
Repeated that.
Had someone else start it just before dark.
This early AM started it again, little action. Much needed rain now. Will do it some more, then powder.
Be interesting to open the vac. No stings, YET.
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Post by trapperjoemo on Oct 5, 2009 21:37:15 GMT -6
Any update on the Yellow Jackets? What did you find in the shop vac?
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Post by Wright Brothers on Oct 6, 2009 14:00:22 GMT -6
I'd guess around 75or a hundred dead ones in the vac. Did not get powder yet. A friend has some just not taken the time to get it, been occupied with other stuff. Still activity but greatly reduced. Chipmunks moving in now, caught one so far.
Ironicly, today was cutting up an old white oak and got nailed by YJ in the neck. Hope that will knock some sence into me, and joint pain outta me.
"joint pain outta me." That has worked for me before from deer fly bites on hammer muscle in elbow. Should try accuepuncture or however you spell that.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Oct 6, 2009 14:02:09 GMT -6
Man the tics this year, and last few years in this area. Never seen it like this.
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Post by jbconnected on Oct 7, 2009 13:20:46 GMT -6
I haven't seen ticks this bad since the early 80's. Mosquito's are bad too. We need a good fast freezing, long, hard winter here. The last two winters here have been unbelievably warm. Like in the 60's for New Years.
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Post by makete on Oct 8, 2009 13:43:15 GMT -6
I'll send you down our winter. OK?
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Post by jbconnected on Oct 8, 2009 21:11:08 GMT -6
Well, ummm..... (looks down & digs toe of boot in ground)
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Post by Wright Brothers on Oct 22, 2009 11:53:57 GMT -6
I just checked and there is NO activity at all on this warm day.
All I did was vac them a few times and seems they are eather dead or moved. Works for me.
I'll keep my eye on the area. Thanks for the help.
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