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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 6, 2008 9:10:01 GMT -6
I'm with LB not a big fan of .223, I'd say go with a 22-250 or .243 as there are many good factory loads, with premium bullets. You will see the most benefit from reloading as I'm sure you know, but you get into either of these and they make some good loads for sure!
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Post by trappnman on Jan 6, 2008 11:10:32 GMT -6
thanks- Between now and next year, I'll start looking....steve
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Post by 17HMR on Jan 6, 2008 12:19:39 GMT -6
I luv my savage .243, a buddy has a browning simi auto .243 and picked up a double on yotes last week one at 60 yards and one at 350 yards, little to no fur damage on either one, but not always the way it works.
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Post by irnhdmike on Jan 9, 2008 7:22:24 GMT -6
What coyote shooting I've done has been with .22-250. Using 52 gr. hpbt or 55gr game kings. Have shot them from less than 10 yards to over 300. Have experienced no problems putting them down . Sometimes a couple of holes to sew up but haven't ever had any graded down because of it. I must add that I have seen a few others have shot that were blowed all to pieces. If I was going to be doing a lot of long range shooting I think my choice would be a .243 . . Either a .223 or .22-250 would be good choices and their are a multitude of factory ammo to choose for either one.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jan 16, 2008 6:49:53 GMT -6
My 22-250 has been in the safe ever since I started shooting my .17 Rem centerfire.
I haven't shot as many with it as I have with 22-250's, but enough to know I prefer the .17.
I can only think of one coyote that I didn't have to sew up that was shot with a 250 and never one with the .17.
I've killed coyotes out past 300 yards with my .17 and never noticed any difference in performance from the 22-250. In fact the whole point of my post is that really about the only difference I notice is the pelt damage.
I live in the most wide open country in the country for long shots and I'll say that killing the occasional coyote that I hit at extreme ranges isn't worth sewing up the 30-40 that I shoot at 100-200 yards in the meantime.
I hear a lot about going to bigger calibers like .243 and 25-06 to buck wind on long shots.
I think if that was my objective I would just take my .300 win mag with a 200 grain bullet.
Frankly the ones I have shot with it suffer much less pelt damage than I got with my 22-250.
That big old bullet just leaves a .30 caliber hole as I doesn't expand at all, just like shooting solids.
If I ever go to another coyote calling contest in inclement weather that is what I'm taking.
I don't think the mid sized calibers make much sense for fur harvest.
Joel
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 16, 2008 7:24:01 GMT -6
Joel, all about bullet selection, no matter what caliber you shoot.
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Post by Critt'R Gitt'Rz on Feb 2, 2008 21:40:24 GMT -6
I'm sure there are going to be lots of good reliable answers to your question, Trapp. You basically have to go with what YOU feel best suits your own needs, yet base that off of the experiences others have had. I almost bought a 17 Rem last year, but opted not to because I don't hand load. The little 17 Rem pill is a screamer, but it gets greatly effected by wind, being so light. The 22-250 is one of my Favorites, and is a very accurate caliber...My biggest reason for NOT going 22-250 is that I'm very likely to be shooting fox as well as Yotes...22-250 is not a fur friendly round at all. So that left me a few more choices...220 Swift is about the same as a 22-250 for damage, yet is more expensive. 223 is a decent choice, but not a reliable long range shooter IMO. In the end, I wound up choosing the 204 Ruger. I felt this caliber would best serve my own situations, and cover both Fox and Yotes at both distance and at closer ranges. I bougt mine in a CZ 527 heavy barrel. I found that the best most accurate Yote ammo for my gun was the Hornady 45 gr SP. It's a bit slower then the 40 Gr and the 35 Gr, but it still pretty much screams down range. It will definitely anchor yotes with good shot placement. To me, that's the most important factor in using any of the small 17 or 20 cal centerfires...shot placement. 204 RUGER 45 GR SP Muzzle 100 yds 200 yds 300 yds 400 yds 500 yds 3625/1313 3188/1015 2792/778 2428/589 2093/438 1787/319
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Post by jdp4202007 on Feb 3, 2008 6:30:36 GMT -6
if your lookin for a cheaper gun the stevens model that savage makes is fairly cheap i bought one in a .243 model and it only cost me 300 bucks and they had a .223 there for the same price and i'm startin to kind of like that gun but i haven't even shot a box of shells through it though
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