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Post by FWS on Dec 21, 2006 22:23:06 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 22, 2006 6:56:49 GMT -6
That was last years normal pricing. I'm betting in the near future the price will come down.
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Post by jrbhunter on Dec 22, 2006 13:18:52 GMT -6
Seems awful expensive for coyotes... but the guys paying that much for waterfowl ammo amaze me as well. They dump some serious ammo into the sky- at least a coyote hunter shooting $3 rounds is blessed with few shot opportunities!  |
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Post by richc on Dec 22, 2006 16:53:19 GMT -6
I am still waiting to read the results from GC in missouri. The last I heard, he was gearing up to do serious testing of Hevi-shot. From what I have seen and read so far, I haven't seen any real evidence that Dead Coyote actually works better than copper plated lead BB or #4 Buck.
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Post by steeliekingfisher on Dec 23, 2006 22:54:48 GMT -6
I bought some last year and thought it sucked. i agree the #4 buck or BB is a better shot and better price for that matter.
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Post by GUTPYLZ on Jan 11, 2007 8:40:34 GMT -6
Won't the Turkey Shot do the job also. They are a lot more cheaper. I wish I would've had a shotgun yesterday, I would have had 2 yotes instead of 1.
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Post by edge on Jan 11, 2007 9:51:34 GMT -6
DC is,I believe,"T" size shot;turkey shot is #4,5,or6,the duplex loads I use for turkey are 4's and 6's;yes they will kill a coyote within their range,but since the manufacturers recommend a 30 yd kill for their turkey loads,what do you figure the effective COYOTE range is?
Birdshot on coyotes is bad news.
Edge
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Post by GUTPYLZ on Jan 11, 2007 10:47:27 GMT -6
You make a very good point Edge. I was thinking the T shot was a heavy load.
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Post by ToddMiller on Jan 12, 2007 11:04:40 GMT -6
Stick with the 4 buck, through a tight tube.
This is a marketing gimick at best. Same goes with all the so called scent free clothing and soaps, etc.
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Post by BK on Jan 12, 2007 20:55:24 GMT -6
Hevi shot is some nasty stuff,..........
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Post by Hillbilly on Jan 20, 2007 12:48:18 GMT -6
Patterned some dead coyote with turkey in mind, ten inch hole right where the head should have been. Come and get the rest.
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Post by magnus on Feb 19, 2007 6:30:12 GMT -6
Does anyone know if #4 buckshot is made in 10 gauge? I haven't seen it but would think its out there someplace.
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Post by cdog911 on Feb 19, 2007 7:50:26 GMT -6
Todd,
How tight a tube do you recommend? I've got an 835 Mossberg with the ulti-full choke for turkeys. I switched that out this year a a modified choke with buckshot and didn't like the patterns. I know that with 00Buck, the ultifull tends to tighten things up, cause the shot to string out with some wild fliers being a problem.
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Post by ToddMiller on Feb 19, 2007 13:41:10 GMT -6
Lance, You will have to pattern several to get one that both your gun and load likes.
I have a early model 835 that likes a .660 Hastings tube w 3" copper 4B. 35 out of 41 pellets in a 24" circle @ 40 yards.
However, that may or may not work in yours.
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Post by lb on Feb 19, 2007 15:36:52 GMT -6
Well, I have been using #4buck for years in my 835, also a very early gun with a four digit serial number...no camo, how embarrassing! I have a box of 3½" Dead Coyote, but have not used it yet. I doubt it will perform any better in my factory .712 choke? It's too expensive to do too much research, except on animals, IMO.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by bussro on Feb 20, 2007 16:36:48 GMT -6
magnus,
I can't find 10 gauge 4-buck at Federal, Reminton or Winchester. The only real 10 ga. load I found is from Federal.
Load number P109. That's 2-1/4 oz. of copper-plated BB @
4-1/2 drams eq.
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Post by Hillbilly on Mar 5, 2007 13:31:00 GMT -6
Hillbilly---You must have got your shells out of the same box as I did, sure wouldn't have had a turkey if I had been shooting at one instead of paper, I'll give ya what I have left.
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Post by Bristleback on Mar 5, 2007 14:00:36 GMT -6
We certainly should show some responsibility and "test-pattern" what we're shooting..................................shouldn't we?? I'd certainly think so. THIS IS TURKEY INFO BELOW...but some info certainly applies beyond turks. As to chokes and ammo, let the paper tell you what to shoot, yes it's one dimensional, but for a stationary target it works great. IMHO, and I've tested countless turkey loads, 2 3/4", 3, 3.5" out of numerous chokes from the same gun, you'd be amazed at how well/poorly some combinations work. Take it for what it's worth and this is out of my 835 with 100+ patterns tested.......here are some GENERAL consensus, granted there will alway be exceptions: *Many after market choke tubes will outperform the standard factory tubes, I've had exceptional luck with HS's Undertaker, especially 40yrds and in, Mad Max, and a couple Hastings tubes have performed very well also. *I sure get better results with 3" vs 3.5" and I've tested and tested this over and over, in visiting with folks, it seems at times we're trying to push too much payload with the 3.5 at times. *Heavishot........WOW is all I can say, gimmick, hardly....this stuff hits like a loaded Mac truck going 80mph....WOW, I've killed a FEW turkeys at yardages we won't discuss openly, one shot, drop dead kills.......why, cuz I've tested and tested and know my limits. *I'm going to test a few more loads this spring, just for kicks, can't remember it off hand, seems Federal has a new load out, came out last year?? Supposed to be a combination of metals... *I lean heavily toward 5 shot vs the 4 or 6, personal preference I suppose. Test your gun/shell/choke combinations, you'll be surprised and yes your shoulder is likely to be sore, would you go elk or deer hunting, calling coyotes without knowing how your gun shoot, not likely........  |
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Mar 5, 2007 14:40:17 GMT -6
Bristleback good post. Those that have never killed with heavy shot don't know what they are missing. It retains more energy,hits harder than lead or steel and does offer a tighter pattern at extended ranges.
I'm waiting on Winchesters entery they are comming out soon with a B load designed for coyotes in heavy shot, I'm hoping price wise it will be cheaper, but to say heavy shot "T" isn't no better than buckshot is not factual at all. They will both kill coyotes, just the heavy shot does it further out and better.
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Post by Bristleback on Mar 5, 2007 15:00:04 GMT -6
TC37, agree with you 100%.
I should add that, GENERALLY speaking with larger shot, you will get a better pattern with a little more open choke rather than the tighter restrictions with factory tubes, UNLESS you get a specialty tube..........meaning with factory tubes you can at times get a better pattern with a MOD vs a FULL or even an IC vs MOD OR FULL........this is contrary to traditional thinking with turkey tubes which usually opt for tighter>tighter>tighter........again not always, but certainly worth busting a primer and checking another target to either eliminate a combination or be pleasantly surprised.....You might be surprised at waterfowlers shooting factory tubes in MOD and IC with the larger shot......Still it's simply best to pattern, bottom line.
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