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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 17, 2008 8:18:58 GMT -6
Looking for the best, strongest and user friendly quick attachment links for cable extensions for the use of tie off/anchor points. Need these for cable extension tie offs for cat sets in some areas where there is no staking conditons.
Photos if available. I have used split rings in the past with some failures wont consider them. Have used and seen the screw on links but they rust and cease up at times. I havent used the tear drop type spring attachment type on traps etc but have used them around the farm.
Thanks, BJ
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Post by Stef on Dec 17, 2008 8:30:19 GMT -6
what you think of a bent nail or a little metal plate with a hole in the middle and ferrule (swivel) like on a Belisle foot snare cable?
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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 17, 2008 8:35:38 GMT -6
I have seen and used some of those on some snares I have used over the years.Do you have an photos?
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Post by Stef on Dec 17, 2008 8:41:31 GMT -6
I can take some today Bob.
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 17, 2008 9:12:31 GMT -6
I think MTP sells those Quick set tie offs If that's what your talking about. This Is just my opinion but since there Isn't a positive lock up I would be looking for something else. I still think 3/16ths quick links or 1/8" would be the way to go.
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Post by billmeyerhoff on Dec 17, 2008 9:40:25 GMT -6
I'm going to try using a tight fixed loop on my cable and the same rod hookup that KB uses on his coni stabilizers. Similar to the Belisle foot snare setup using the loop instead of the swivel. Will try it first with conibears but don't think it would fail with foot holds.
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Post by rk660 on Dec 17, 2008 10:56:28 GMT -6
Bob, the teardrop type deals your talking about are probibly "snap links".
Ive found them to be about the fastest user friendly thing around. You can use them with gloved hands real well.
Ive been using them tying off long snares to trees, and for hooking up traps to drowners on drowning rods for beaver and coon for about 2 years now.
The one failure I had last spring beaver trapping, somehow the gate got opened and trap chain came off. Luckley I caught that beaver with the trap on foot in a 660 about a 1/2 mile down the river.
I since came up with a method that I think makes them pretty secure after haveing that beaver come loose.
Take a piece of 1/4" vynal tubing, 1/4 I.D. that is, and cut about 1" long. Then open the gate of the snap link and slide the 1/4" tubing over the hinged gate. What you want is the tubing covering most of the gate with out interferring with opening and closing. After putting on chain link or cable, then you slide the plastic collar up over the opening point of the gate. It will be a friction fit and wont slide back down. Adds a lot of security to a snap link as the plastic collar wont allow it to open if gate gets pushed against chain, brush or something that will open the spring loaded gate.
Check it out, and look over, might be what your looking for.
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Post by marbleyez2001 on Dec 17, 2008 12:15:49 GMT -6
I used the snap links beaver trapping this fall for the first time. Out of 200+ beaver now I have had one failure. Beaver was right there, but the link was not attached. That was early and have changed the way the snap goes on and have had no more problems since.
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 17, 2008 13:08:18 GMT -6
RK that's some great advise.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 17, 2008 14:36:59 GMT -6
I picked up a few dozen of the threaded links like beav described. Have used them before but they can foul up with rust and freeze at times even with some vaseline over time.Seems like I only grease them the first time around then you end up using them for number of years before greasing them again.
I like the deal RK describes sounds like a good method. The threaded links are more economical then the snap links but I like the speed the snap links provide. The vinyl tubing addition I can see how that might be the ticket. Great idea Rich.The threaded links have a higher rated tensile strength I see .
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Post by Freak( Jim V.) on Dec 17, 2008 16:46:01 GMT -6
Why not just use adjustable end cables? Run your cable through double ferrule without crimping and put a crimped stop on tag end of cable. Thats what I use. I hook a j hook through the end swivel of trap chain and hook up just like a disposable to cable loop.Open em up once wrapped around tree and slip trap through. Snug back down and set trap. No BS to deal with and easier than pie. Only probelm I ever had was last week a cat got one pretty tangled up and must have fought very hard and pinched the ferrule tight against the cable with a kink and had to open up with handyman tool instead of by hand. A little tip Ive learned in past few years using them is to carry some fencing staple along and when no tree close by , use a log drag by wrapping around a couple times and pounding staple into log over cable in 2 spots. Usually can find a big enough log within dragging distance of setup when cat trapping
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Post by Woodsmoke on Dec 17, 2008 17:54:19 GMT -6
Excellent tip RK! I had used the snaplinks for a couple seasons with good success and thought they were the cats meow - then lost a beaver in a snare on an ADC job due to the snaplink opening up, and I've been gun shy of them ever since. Kind of embarrassing when the landowners shoots the beaver he's paying you to remove, and he's wearing your snare! Gonna get some tubing tomorrow and put the snaplinks back to work.
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Post by Bigfoot on Dec 17, 2008 18:29:34 GMT -6
I use the slip loop on my cables Like freak does but I have begun to put a stop on them to keep the loop from cinching down so tight that I need pliers to pull it out . all I need is a double ferrul and two 6-32 (8-32 for 1/8" ) nuts to make my slip loops I make my drowners this way so I can use them for extentions if need be .I don't trust any kind of snap , but thats just me . I had a horse when I was a kidd that could unsnap any of them .
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Post by cameron2 on Dec 17, 2008 18:34:58 GMT -6
Bob:
Use the 1/8" 10' beaver drowners from Snare Shop. Slip loops on both ends and they build them cheaper than you can. You can hold a freight train with one. Easy to use and re-usable.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 17, 2008 18:53:49 GMT -6
I have alot of the slip end loops and fixed opposite end loop cables I have used for years as Jim V. describes. Just wanted something I could basically clip around an object and be done. I had several dozen of the Hanson type devices made by bob Best also. They are made to be used with a swivel lock thread deal. I rigged some tonite with the cable and crimped the device to keep it on the cable. They should work nicely.
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Post by CoonDuke on Dec 17, 2008 19:17:05 GMT -6
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Post by paysho on Dec 17, 2008 19:31:26 GMT -6
Quick swiveling link Hope this help
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Post by JWarren on Dec 17, 2008 20:53:51 GMT -6
make your cable ends slip loops like they said above and hook the slip loop over the end swivel on the trap chain and cinch it down, I use nuts instead of double ferrules for the slip end though
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Post by sRc on Dec 17, 2008 21:11:50 GMT -6
"Gonna get some tubing tomorrow and put the snaplinks back to work." Me too, I was getting ready to sell 'em.
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 17, 2008 22:17:28 GMT -6
In my opinion these quick connect devises are more a specialty use device. Like how Bob wants to use them. There Is no way that I would use them on all situations. I make a quick connect for my 330 and 280 body grip traps. It's just a large safety pin type devise. It has never failed me yet. But I doubt that I would use them for land traps where there was constant pressure being exerted against them.
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