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Post by bobm on Oct 14, 2008 7:15:02 GMT -6
Dirty traps straight into the dye water and then skim the gunk off the top before removing? I've kind of tried this before but had problems with the wax not coming off.
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 14, 2008 7:23:52 GMT -6
I also tried the bucket of hot water and dish washer soap and that didn't take off any of the new trap oil. Hard to beat boiling In some type of caustic material. But then the wifes dish washer does a nice job.
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Post by lynxcat on Oct 14, 2008 7:25:32 GMT -6
There's a TON of ways to do it out there... I STILL have lye... (some think AHEAD and stock up)...so I stll do it the OLD way... lye is CAUSTIC...that's why it cleans better.. CAUSTIC=Capable of burning, corroding, dissolving, or eating away by chemical action. Gets NO BETTER than that. lynx
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Post by trappnman on Oct 14, 2008 7:45:55 GMT -6
no- not dirty traps straight into the water-
dirty traps sprayed off, swivels cleaned, etc.
not enough gunk to worry about-
works for me
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Post by bobm on Oct 14, 2008 7:55:51 GMT -6
Thanks much.
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 14, 2008 9:03:01 GMT -6
One year I just took the pressure washer cleaned up the traps and waxed them worked well.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 14, 2008 9:10:08 GMT -6
I do the same 1-2 times mid season-
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Post by sRc on Oct 14, 2008 16:11:41 GMT -6
My decision has been made . . . "wash and wax"!
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Post by mailman on Oct 15, 2008 4:30:59 GMT -6
I have read several posts over time about useing "White Vinegar" to get the rust off traps, metal, etc. and didn't think much about it until this fall. I got a couple of gallons and let some traps soak overnight that had been hanging outside for a long time. After about 24 hrs. I took them out of the vinegar and dipped them in a backing soda soulition, then took my power washer and cleaned them off!!!!!! If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't believe it, they looked like brand new, and after about a hour of beeing cleaned they had a light coat of rust on them ready to be dyed and waxed. Just goes to show YOU CAN teach a old dog NEW tricks.
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Post by gunny on Oct 15, 2008 6:30:48 GMT -6
Does the vinegar remove the wax and garbage down to the bare metal?
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 15, 2008 6:38:46 GMT -6
The only thing that removes wax Is by boiling. I know of no substance that removes wax with out heating the trap.
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Post by gunny on Oct 15, 2008 6:41:36 GMT -6
Thanks Beav.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2008 7:16:20 GMT -6
sdo oyu think pressure washing removes any old wax, beyond flakes?
no
and yet- pressure washing and rewaxing, works fine.
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Post by mailman on Oct 15, 2008 7:58:05 GMT -6
I put one trap in the vinegar that had been dyed and waxed just to see what would happen and I was able to get probaly 85-90% of the old finish off once I used the power washer. Don't know if it was the vinegar or the high pressure washer or both.
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Post by Zagman on Oct 15, 2008 9:04:51 GMT -6
when you pressure wash, you just get the mud and crud off.....rewaxing melts the old wax off of the trap and puts it squarely in your wax pot. Not that I see that as a problem....but agree with Beav.....without heat, you dont take the wax off.
I still boil and dye and yet I am not convinced that boiling takes all the old wax off..... but again, have not had any problem with that.
MZ
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2008 9:43:12 GMT -6
that was my point mark- I agree I don't think it takea all that old wax off- and as you said, not a problem.
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Post by bobm on Oct 15, 2008 9:45:26 GMT -6
You guys then just re-wax over the top of the old wax then?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2008 10:04:37 GMT -6
yes
but how much really is left on? A few catches in the trap, esp coon and skunk- and the trap is pretty much bare metal anyhow.
at the start of the season, because I have the time and the inclination, I do boil them.
I used to boil them in saniflush, then clean boil, then dye boil- but haven't for many many years. I guess as the number of traps increased, the amount of prep decreased.
I still like to start the season with black traps, so continue to dye, but do wonder how much use it is- but I like to boil everything once a year, so might as well toss in some dye.
but since I've gotten in the habit of pulling traps pretty regularly and changing them out, I don't have time to dye them, or more apt, don't feel like it really a combo of both.
I used to pressure wash at car wash, but didn't feel it was worth the effort cause I found it didn't do as well as I thought- so now, I toss some in a washtub with bleach, detergent, let sit a day or so, then use a brush quickly if needed on coils, etc- then rinse and wax. My brushing is token at best.
Can't say I've noticed any difference.
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Post by bobm on Oct 15, 2008 10:15:23 GMT -6
Very helpful. I think I spend tooo much time cleaning my traps and have often wondered what would happen if I simple rinsed them off and put them straight in the dye pot. You've answered my question. thanks.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2008 10:23:40 GMT -6
what I always wonder about- is old wax. For the first time, I waxed using last years wax-
too many people use wax for years and years- I always started fresh, but after 2-3 times of reusing it during seasons lately, combined with all those that always use the same wax, convinved me to try it.
I did cut off the botomo 2 inches- and that wasn't as easy as I thought it might be either...LOL
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