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Post by stickbowhntr on Sept 28, 2008 8:19:22 GMT -6
Can somebody post a pic of drags with an anti-hitch on them[ I think thats what they are called].The slide on the back part of drags to help keep chain from getting tangled on the drag and pulling backwards.Do they go from point side to point side or opposite ?Saw some and did not pay attention and wanted to try installing on some old drags of mine.Does it matter which way they go?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Sept 28, 2008 10:10:58 GMT -6
I'd be interested in opinions on anti hitches.
When I was trapping coyotes hard I used lots of Mike Ayers drags and I can't say I ever had a problem with the chain getting tangled.
I can't say that I've ever heard of anybody having a personal experience with it either.
I understand how it could happen, I'm just wondering if it ever does?
Anybody here ever had it happen?
Joel
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Post by lynxcat on Sept 28, 2008 11:08:10 GMT -6
NEVER had it happen before... maybe another "trapper related" item (makes the TRAPPER happier)
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Post by kyboy on Sept 28, 2008 13:15:49 GMT -6
Ive used drags for over 20 years and never had it happen that I know of...MTP's trailblazer drag on their website has one on it..You can see it there..
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Post by lynxcat on Sept 28, 2008 14:09:25 GMT -6
Same here.... a design built FOR TRAPPERS...... by TRAPPERS... (the EASY SELLS... LOL)
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Post by motrapperjohn on Sept 28, 2008 17:51:56 GMT -6
more than one reason for a antihitch device, basically a rod 45 degree welded onto the back or your drag to form a v-shape. was told to put them on my drags for years by robert w and to stuborn to do so till he told me why. I will let him tell you the rest if he wants to.
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Post by stickbowhntr on Sept 28, 2008 17:55:15 GMT -6
I've seen Roberts and thats one reason I wanted to put on mine, but like a dummy didn't really look close enough to see if there was a "direction" in relationship to the points.One heck of an "IDEA" !
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Post by kyboy on Sept 28, 2008 19:11:11 GMT -6
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Post by robertw on Sept 28, 2008 20:07:13 GMT -6
stickbowhunter, Get with motrapperjohn if your wantingt a couple of drags.
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Post by robertw on Sept 28, 2008 20:10:32 GMT -6
Motrapperjohn, This method has been mentioned before on the internet but....somehow escaped all of the Arm Chair Experts that specialise in trapping trappers.......Lets leave it that way for a little while longer.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Sept 29, 2008 4:45:31 GMT -6
Robert if your talking about the deals welded on the back to force the points into the ground I understand that concept as well.
I think the anti hitch idea has merit, I was just wondering if anybody else had experienced many/any problems with the old type of drag.
Joel
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Post by robertw on Sept 29, 2008 7:05:40 GMT -6
Joel, Sorry, but no.
I'll send you a pm later today explaing how I use them.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Sept 29, 2008 10:03:48 GMT -6
Thanks that will be interesting.
Joel
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Post by kyboy on Sept 29, 2008 15:21:32 GMT -6
What I'm thinking of is the 90* bent piece of round stock welded to the back to form a "triangle" over the cross beam of the drag..Is what everyone else is referring too? Seems like everyone has a different name for different things.. Joel, Ive never had a problem..In 20 solid years of using drags on better than 90% of my land line.May happen tomorrow, just hasnt happened yet...Ive never had an animal go more than 50' from the set and that was the exception..Most make it about 10'-20'...BUT I live in some of the thickest, most densely forested territory there is...It doesn't take much to hook a animal around here..People are likely to have different exp's with the same drags elsewhere..
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Post by robertw on Sept 29, 2008 19:22:21 GMT -6
Kyboy;"Ive never had an animal go more than 50' from the set and that was the exception"
Some of us reguarly send animals 200-300 yards getting them into cover and out of site. Sending them across a 1/4 mile (440 yards) of bean stubble is not uncommon.
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Post by kyboy on Sept 29, 2008 19:26:15 GMT -6
Yea, thats what I meant by saying the same drag may work different for different people..Really depends on the terrain...Out west it doesn't surprise me a bit. Around here if I have to do more than turn my head around to find them its unusual..Unless of course its a cat then they may be hunkered down under some brush close by..
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Post by trappnman on Sept 30, 2008 7:06:24 GMT -6
I'd love to use drags on every canine trap- If I lived out west, well in sage brush type out west, I'd go to them 100%. I was "hoping" I'd get one to track, but everyone was caught up within yards of the set. even if I never caught a coyote, just pulling the line would be worth it... but here- 400 yards through bean stubble, would put him in the farmers yard or sitting in a fence next to a highway. out west, I don't think type matters much- but here, I find the "tracker" type of drags work the best- we have lots of tall grass, and the hook types seem to ball up with the grass, causing them to skid. plus the flat laying drags ae easier to bed- I like putting the drag under trap- but Lori just tossed them into a sage bush, threw sand over the chain and good to go.
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Post by lynxcat on Sept 30, 2008 7:47:35 GMT -6
WOW.... the "secret" anti hitch..... I am IMPRESSED... LOL
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Post by trappnman on Sept 30, 2008 7:50:43 GMT -6
out of the mouths of babes? LOl
what did I say that was right or wrong?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Sept 30, 2008 15:23:55 GMT -6
I haven't pounded a stake for 20 years. Packing rebar and prying it out of the ground sucks.
Never used the earth anchors, between the amount of rock and sand out here I think there are as many places they wouldn't work as where they would.
For cats I like to run cable ties offs if packing into rough country. A guy can put them in tandem out 50 feet or more to something to tie off to if necessary.
As for drags I use them in tandem if in short brush country, just a quick link and another 6-8 feet of chain and your in business. I've stopped cats in a sand dune before with tandem drags.
Joel
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