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Sept 16, 2008 17:55:00 GMT -6
Post by CoonDuke on Sept 16, 2008 17:55:00 GMT -6
Sterlings are great when you have a situation where you need a low profile swivel. I like the crunch-proof type swivels in the mid chain where I can bed my loose jaw on it.
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Sept 16, 2008 18:09:59 GMT -6
Post by roberts on Sept 16, 2008 18:09:59 GMT -6
the jaw breakers are new. I got mine at the NY state convention. the way the cp are heavier then a regular swivel, the jaw breakers are that much and more, heavier then the cp. coyotes won't hurt them
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Sept 16, 2008 18:56:17 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 16, 2008 18:56:17 GMT -6
Clefus- not saying they aren't better- but better is a comparative word. I don't replace stuff with "better" unless I have a reason. And I have no reason to change to a different style swivel- thus my words......CP work just fine for me
and Im sure I've caught as many coyotes and fox in snow, as marky with my poor little swivels= no controversy from me, just responding to NJ shtick.........
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Sept 16, 2008 19:42:18 GMT -6
Post by marbleyez2001 on Sept 16, 2008 19:42:18 GMT -6
The CP swivels are made so a coyotes jaw is not capeable of crushing it. A heavier swivel is only adding more weight! Unless those jaw busters are cheaper, I will still be using the CP.
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Sept 16, 2008 19:57:04 GMT -6
Post by CoonDuke on Sept 16, 2008 19:57:04 GMT -6
The jawbusters have a thicker J-hook, whereas the CP has a standard #6.
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Sept 16, 2008 20:10:54 GMT -6
Post by markymark on Sept 16, 2008 20:10:54 GMT -6
Steve how many critters you take in extended checks??? You seem to forget I was trapping out West way before it was in Vogue.
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Sept 16, 2008 21:11:57 GMT -6
Post by marbleyez2001 on Sept 16, 2008 21:11:57 GMT -6
The jawbusters have a thicker J-hook, whereas the CP has a standard #6. Nothing a spot weld wont take care of! Is a coyote not able to open them up?
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Sept 16, 2008 22:04:28 GMT -6
Post by sRc on Sept 16, 2008 22:04:28 GMT -6
Ron Marsh here sells a nice swivel, tha "Kant Krunch" swivel, that's heavier and slightly larger than the MB Crunch Proof.
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Sept 17, 2008 5:15:36 GMT -6
Post by 17HMR on Sept 17, 2008 5:15:36 GMT -6
I wish someone would come out with a 6 ga or bigger j hook with a little longer shank, it would reduce the fouling in heavy grass.
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Sept 17, 2008 5:33:50 GMT -6
Post by markymark on Sept 17, 2008 5:33:50 GMT -6
Sterling makes those also. I do have an order coming in next week with some extra J hooks.
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Sept 17, 2008 5:46:08 GMT -6
Post by CoonDuke on Sept 17, 2008 5:46:08 GMT -6
marble, I run both the CP and JB swivels on my traps and don't see any difference in performance in the field. Granted, the majority of my canine catch is fox. I buy jawbusters now because of the heavy rivets (and the fact I can get them from many PA dealers) and Sterlings go at the base of the trap.
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Sept 17, 2008 7:08:41 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 17, 2008 7:08:41 GMT -6
I run both the CP and JB swivels on my traps and don't see any difference in performance in the field.
thank you CD.
marky- what part of "they work for me" cannot you understand?
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Sept 17, 2008 7:22:04 GMT -6
Post by CoonDuke on Sept 17, 2008 7:22:04 GMT -6
Steve, I was comparing the Crunchproof to the Jawbuster...which are very similar. The Sterling is a different beast altogether...
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Sept 17, 2008 7:28:27 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 17, 2008 7:28:27 GMT -6
oh- sorry-
but my point still stands, they work fine for me- never lost a coyote yet due to a rivet.
I COULD hire a plane to take me to my mailbox- it would indeed be "better and more epxensive" but bottom line- its overkill FOR ME
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Sept 17, 2008 7:33:27 GMT -6
Post by lynxcat on Sept 17, 2008 7:33:27 GMT -6
For some people Better translates to cheeper.
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Sept 17, 2008 7:36:03 GMT -6
Post by thebeav2 on Sept 17, 2008 7:36:03 GMT -6
I think this swivel thing Is way over rated. I have been trapping for over 50 years caught my share of critters and I can truthfully say I have NEVER had a swivel fail me. Sure I've had them foul but never come apart. I know I should never say NEVER buts It's the truth. In most cases I used what came on the trap. I think It's trapper sickness, we just have to tinker.
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Sept 17, 2008 7:36:59 GMT -6
Post by 17HMR on Sept 17, 2008 7:36:59 GMT -6
If it isnt broke it dont need fixed.
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Sept 17, 2008 7:40:00 GMT -6
Post by lynxcat on Sept 17, 2008 7:40:00 GMT -6
I've NEVER had one fail...however I HAVE had them damaged/destroyed to the point of replacement being necessary. SINCE switching over to the nail swivels... I have NEVER...EVER had one damaged PERIOD. I guess for those that like to constantly do R&R maintenance on their traps, that regular swivels are fine. Just a matter of WHERE you put your priorities OR how cheep one is... lol
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Sept 17, 2008 7:42:44 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 17, 2008 7:42:44 GMT -6
exaclty 17
and for some, those of the newest trap of the month fan club, better can only mean more expensive.
a $100 hammer drives in a nail as accurrately as a $30 hammer.
but only hobbiests go with the most expsenive, since they then can tell everyone- its the most expensive out there.....
paying more for something than needed isn't a virtue.......
traps etc are tools- if they do the job for you, they are correct.
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Sept 17, 2008 8:16:26 GMT -6
Post by z on Sept 17, 2008 8:16:26 GMT -6
According to you, Your 1.75's were not broke, WHY then did you fix them with replacement traps? Same thing..... BTW, I wouldn't call Zagger a hobbyist when he stomped you!
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