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Post by mr. finch on Sept 13, 2008 13:25:46 GMT -6
i am thinking of takeing abunch of bg's i have and put pans on them for boxes. can you take that same trap and use it in the trails? or would it be to directional?
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 13, 2008 15:03:43 GMT -6
does anyone use body grippers in trails with pans on them?
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Post by mattduncan on Sept 13, 2008 16:38:26 GMT -6
i'd like to hear from someone who uses pans in trails also
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 13, 2008 18:44:56 GMT -6
anyone have any input on the subject?
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Post by thebeav2 on Sept 13, 2008 20:13:12 GMT -6
Never used any but I would think you would be getting some hip caught coon or at least a few shoulder caught coon. Not a good situation In my opinion.
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 13, 2008 21:12:13 GMT -6
Never used any but I would think you would be getting some hip caught coon or at least a few shoulder caught coon. Not a good situation In my opinion. thats the kinda stuff i want to talk about. |
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Post by thebeav2 on Sept 13, 2008 21:21:00 GMT -6
With the wires twisted together and right In the center and with your trap dog tuned you will 95% of the time have right behind the ears hits.
But If a coon misses that pan with one foot as It goes through and then hits It with the following foot or worse yet a hind foot you will have a live coon.
Maybe In a bucket or some type of cubby the pan might work. With the pan located on the Incoming side of the trap than a front foot on the pan would give you behind the ears hits.
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 13, 2008 23:21:18 GMT -6
the pans work well enough in cubbie type sets.i wasnt sure about takeing the same pan triggered coni and setting it in a trail set.but it makes sense what you are saying.i had some doubts with it myself, my thinking is that it makes it to directional but i understand what you are saying about the coon missing the pan the first time and hitting it to late
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Post by trappnman on Sept 14, 2008 6:14:24 GMT -6
I've never used them either, so won't make any guesses-
however, I know many that DO use them, and use them a lot. And what they tell me, is you get far less snapped traps, and far more properly positioned dead coon- plus, you get the mink, etc.
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 14, 2008 9:39:13 GMT -6
i would like to hear from those guys for sure.i hope they will post some info
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Post by trappnman on Sept 14, 2008 9:41:35 GMT -6
lots of n Mn boys use them- unfortunately, most aren't computer guys-
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 14, 2008 11:55:05 GMT -6
well that sucks..lol i would like to hear about at what postion the pan is at.if it is just straight out or what.and how affective it is in a trail set as opposed to just stock wire triggers
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Post by thebeav2 on Sept 14, 2008 12:06:51 GMT -6
It just seems to me that a coon would have It's head to far through before It's foot stepped on the pan. And I would think the bigger the trap like a 220 that things would be worse, to much room for a sure foot on the pan.
I can see where a pan on 110 120 would take alot of mink but In a 160 or 220 I don't think so. I catch several mink and weasels In 160s each year with just the wires positioned In the middle of the trap.
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Post by coalminer on Sept 14, 2008 12:10:17 GMT -6
Warcraft, so you have used these in buckets and boxes? I was going to set 6 up with a wood pan to try it. We can't set bg's on ground here In PA> Got any pictures? Actually was going to put a drowner lock in the trigger and attach a pan to it, your thoughts?
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Post by marbleyez2001 on Sept 14, 2008 12:59:39 GMT -6
Always wondered myself, but most 220's are in buckets or boxes where I trap. I might have to try with 220's with pans in otter crossovers this fall.
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Post by Rod S on Sept 14, 2008 13:31:08 GMT -6
i have used wood pans on 160s and a few 220s for several years, mostly in wood boxes with great results. coon and cats trip the trap with their chin or chest for nice head catches. mink and weasels step right on the pan. mink usually get suitcased. tracks in the snow have never shown a mink or weasel to jump over the pan. i set the trap so the pan is on the outside jaw facing in over the inside jaw. the 220s have worked well in dry otter slides. i used the oak pans that steve sells.
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Post by mr. finch on Sept 14, 2008 16:42:56 GMT -6
Warcraft, so you have used these in buckets and boxes? I was going to set 6 up with a wood pan to try it. We can't set bg's on ground here In PA> Got any pictures? Actually was going to put a drowner lock in the trigger and attach a pan to it, your thoughts? yes i have used pans in boxes and have done very well with them. |
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Post by coalminer on Sept 14, 2008 16:47:04 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply, will try 6 and see how it works.
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Post by thebeav2 on Sept 14, 2008 18:12:08 GMT -6
Jake how or why would the coon trip the pan activated body grip with It's chin? And how do you know this Is the way It went down?
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Post by Rod S on Sept 14, 2008 19:24:34 GMT -6
beav, i try to elivate my boxes 3 to 4 inches by setting them on pieces of wood or the banks of waterways so the coon can look straight into them without crouching. i have the pan at a slight upword angle as it goes in. my boxes are quite short, about 15 inches. taking all this into consideration along with the smaller size of the 160 i believe the larger animal find it easier to reach in with thier head to get to the bait rather than crawl in or reach in with thier feet thus tripping the trap with thier chin or chest. the reason i believe this is because all most all of the coon and all of the bobcats are caught by the head with thier feet lying back underneath the body. rarely a small coon will also have one foot in the trap. this setup also catch an occasional otter, red, and grey fox. it also works very well on the fisher and martin here in mn. hope this explains it alittle better.
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