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Post by scott kimball on Aug 2, 2008 10:20:14 GMT -6
I am looking to cut some cost for items in need this year and was wondering if anyone made their own catch pole that would not mind sharing the info.
I am a machinist and have access to all material i need.
OH i will be using this on coon and k-9
thanks scott
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Post by 17HMR on Aug 2, 2008 10:56:51 GMT -6
Dont need to be a machinist to make what i use, and may not be the best, but works for me. 3/4 sch 40 pvc, 1 cap for same, some #2 twist link chain , some 1/8 7x19 cable. Drill hole in cap top for cable, attach cap to pvc , drill hole through the side of cap and pvc to put the end of cable through. cut notch in handle end of pvc just big enough for the chain to slip into and put it all together.
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Post by scott kimball on Aug 3, 2008 7:14:16 GMT -6
17HMR; thanks for the help.although i do have more questions.when running the cable through the cap and the PVC.do you fasten it there or do you fasten it in the cap end?
also with the chain is it used as your locking device?
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Post by 17HMR on Aug 3, 2008 7:30:46 GMT -6
I run the cable out the center of the cap make a loop and run it through the sides of the cap and pipe and pound on a stop. The chain is attached to the cable with a double ferrel and inside the pipe so the cable is pulled tight on the neck of the coyote then the chain is sliped into the notch (slot) I cut in the handle end to hold it in place. This is a lot more simple than it sounds, I wish I could post a pic as my discriptive skill with this keyboard is not very good.
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Post by scott kimball on Aug 3, 2008 7:45:52 GMT -6
no need for pics. I understand fully now . thanks a ton.just was unsure if the cable ran up th side or down th cener of the pipe.
scott
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Post by mr. finch on Aug 3, 2008 20:56:48 GMT -6
one four foot peice of galvenized conduit one clothes line tesioner the cable two ferrules and you got your self a pretty decent catch pole
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Post by billmeyerhoff on Aug 4, 2008 4:58:00 GMT -6
I made one like 17HMR's. I would suggest trying to place the pole under the neck, it will choke down and hold better that way in my opinion. I've had it slip when the pole was on the top of the neck. I used 1/4" coated cable and 1 1/4" PVC.
The smaller would hold much better but could cause more damage if the animal fought hard.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 4, 2008 7:24:22 GMT -6
buy a good katch all pole and you will think you died and went to heaven-
I got by for years on pvc, hog catchers, rope and peg, etc...
day and night with katch all
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 4, 2008 7:56:03 GMT -6
I have one of those 5' hog catcher poles I think It cost $20.00 I've lifted 1ooo s of coyotes and fox and cats off their feet and put them In the carrying cages. Then you have lots more dogs I've pined down. Never had it fail me yet. And very simple to replace the cable when needed. If you had one to look at they are real simple to build.
$100.00 versus $20.00
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Post by trappnman on Aug 4, 2008 8:02:22 GMT -6
those pvc ones with the lock work ok, but I jave my doubts over long haul. A man I know just bought 3 of them, becasue he goes through that many in a year..
Those 20 dollar catchers like the farm stores sell- you can have them. Awkward locking, still to operate- come on man, spend some of that big NAFA money and buy a good pole.
1000s of coyotes?
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 4, 2008 8:46:18 GMT -6
You don't read well T man
1000s of FOX COYOTES AND CATS not to mention the dogs.Go back and re read. I changed cable once. My partner had one of those ketch alls It worked fine but the loop was to sloppy when trying to get the loop over a coyote. The hog catcher had a much stiffer cable and was easier to get hooked up. The spring failed In my friends Ketch all and the coating on the cable was wore off and all raggedy after a few hook ups and that caused some problems with the cable moving smoothly. No parts to go wrong on my hog catcher. How many fox coyotes and cats have you handled with your Ketch all? Maybe a dog or two. I handled 48 dogs In the first month I trapped SC. Hog catcher 48 dogs zero. LOL
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Post by trappnman on Aug 4, 2008 10:09:00 GMT -6
reeading it says this I've lifted 1ooo s of coyotes and fox and cats off their feet and put them In the carrying cages
my katch all? hundreds of coon, 50 or so coyotes, maybe 20 dogs, several otter
lots more than when my farm store hog catchers fell apart
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Post by bfflobo on Aug 4, 2008 10:40:47 GMT -6
Made out of thick walled aluminum tube. Has never failed me. Dirt and ice don't foul it. It's light and tough.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 4, 2008 12:33:48 GMT -6
If your not Live market trapping why even carry a catch pole other then releasing a few dogs. I don't see how a all steel unit can fall apart. Mine Is just as good as the day I bought It and like I said I have only changed cable once. The Ketch all unit Is nice but hardly worth the $100.00 price tag.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 4, 2008 12:43:53 GMT -6
if your not Live market trapping why even carry a catch pole other then releasing a few dogs.
Why wouldn't I use a catch pole to release dogs? A catch pole is 100% quicker than any other dog release method. The board works good- but PIA unloading entire truck when you need it. Dog is released and set remade in the time it would take to unload and reload
Also need catch pole to release all those early coon and fox- letting my competition have a shot at them when they finally get off the couch.
my pole liked your's looked like Bob's in his video- cable was always twisted. Each to their own as anything.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 4, 2008 13:26:27 GMT -6
if your not Live market trapping why even carry a catch pole other then releasing a few dogs.
Didn't I say for a few dogs. I have never released a early coon or fox. when we start In late Oct It's all worth keeping. Bob uses a chunk of PVC with a cable run through It It's not like my hog catcher. To each His own
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Post by trappnman on Aug 4, 2008 13:41:22 GMT -6
so apparently it was answer within a question.... ok
on his coyote video, it was a metal hog catcher.
I never released early fox and coon either til last year - but I'm not giving up 2 of the best weeks of coyote season because some are to lazy to trap when things are ready.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 4, 2008 14:12:32 GMT -6
I just ran his on the dog line and that catch pole Is nothing like the store bought hog catcher I have . His Is a chunk of pipe with a cable running out the end and yes It Is a tangled mess. That doesn't happen with that store bought hog catcher since one end Is fixed to the outside of the Pipe. I have to get In as much arguing as I can In the next 10 or so hours since I'm out of here tomorrow for a month.
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Post by scott kimball on Aug 4, 2008 19:44:56 GMT -6
I am looking at making mine out of thick walled aluminum.
steve; what material is the main body of the katch all made from and what size cable do they use in it? would be nice to see a few pics. ( close ups )
bev: is that hog catcher the one that has the cable atched to the outside of the pole on a small welded on piece off the end where the cable comes out the end of the pole? and what is the main body made from? pics would be good.or where can i see a pic of it?
thanks scott
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 4, 2008 20:34:40 GMT -6
The cable attaches to the bracket that Is welded across the end of the 1/2 steel pipe. Two holes are drilled one Thur the steel bracket centered on the opening In the pipe. The other hole Is drilled out at the end of the bracket. I like to use about twice the cable you will need. Pass the cable up Thur the center hole until It comes out of the far end. The pull rod will be out of the pipe body. You need to drill a hole into the end of the pull rod I use 3/8ths cold roll for the pull rod. When you drill the hole In the end of the rod It should be just big enough to get the cable Into the hole. And the hole should be at least 3" deep. Shove the cable Into the hole until It bottoms out. You can heat the rod and smash It flat or you can smash It flat In the cold state. Now the rod can be replaced and the cable passed Thur the other end of the bracket and the cable stop can be attached. leave enough cable so you can have a 16" loop when your done.
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