trapping coyotes in the summertime

[tonymalone]

do yall find, and what do ya do different, about yotes in the summer than in winter, knowing they are closer to the dens, and alot of winter travelways don't get used in summer, but when ya do find where they are traveling , but they just don't work sets same as winter, what changes can ya make, to get em to work sets, such as bait, lure or what ever? ( not sure i said that rite, but hope yall get my drift)

[trappnman]

tony, with some experince with summer yotes, I have to say you summed up the 2 biggest problems- knowing they are closer to the dens, and alot of winter travelways don't get used in summer.

and thats a key- they don't move around near as much.

I have to say, I've never found summer coyotes and any difficult than fall. (now winter.... LOL)

the ADC coyotes I've need to catch, were easy because they were very regular in their patterns, coming up to the corrals and pastures. I do use more flat sets in summer, more because they are easy to blend and I like tme I guess than any othe reason.

[blaine76]

Tony I was using the same sets the past few weeks as I where using in the winter and was having yotes just travel right on by or having a few roll on my sets (Dirtholes lured). Talked to RobertW and went to a lot more flat sets with just urine and it has helped considerably.

[bobwendt]

not only don`t they move much, but almost none at all. in the heat of summer they will camp in as small as a couple hundred yards if feed and water and shade are close. without a howler and locating them, you are just wasting your time time trapping. I mean if you don`t see them run off then you aren`t close enough. it`s a hard thing for a fall fur trapper to grasp till you run 100 typical road intersection sets for a week and catch a big fat zero. but working sets, same as always, if they come by.

[tonymalone]

Sounds like Blaine was experianceing about same as me.
aw might pick one up here and there usually an ole dog yote, i'm on location ( fresh tracks tell me i am ) yotes just don't seem to have an interest in sets, like in winter ( mid sept. - mid March ) not putting alot in it because of gas, and looking at to many empty traps.

[trappnman]

are these your same fall locations tony?

[bobwendt]

"a" fresh track and a bunch of ancient tracks says you are in his home range, but he isn`t coming by every night like in the fall, or should I say 6 coming by every night. often what we don`t realize is a set in the fall catches every night or every thiird night beccause SIX come by, and not just one old geezer like in the spring. let mer expand on my first post a little. you can set those hundred sets on the fall type locations and catch 90% old males( ma is on the den) whenever a front with a big rain comes thru. as that is the next time he is coming by. set your clock on it, take it to the bank, etc etc.. and that could be tomorrow or a month from now. and he is alone and probably seen the wars already.so you need to do different, and it`s not the set or lure. you need to get on them, and you need to get used to 1 coyote/100 trap days if you don`t or won`t get get on them.

[trappnman]

often what we don`t realize is a set in the fall catches every night or every thiird night beccause SIX come by,

when I first set traps in May, it took me a little bit to figure this out- that I just didn't have the "normal" population.

As a funny- I also remember driving up to my first May coyote- and saying- man, look at him, hes got mange bad...and the guy with me said- "what do you think they look like in summer...?"

[trappincoyotes39]

you should have little problems with bait as the females are looking for food and will work sets with a good bait really well at this time of the year. Fresh baits really work well and lures with food base works well also, the hard thing is to keep lures from being like water when it is 90 outside, I like thicker lures as the dry heat plays with them much less, so that is what I buy and use I'm a paste lure guy, but then some that start as paste turn to water in the summer, thickening agents help.
Gland lures work well too, I have a couple that are real consitant lures for working summertime coyotes.
AS mentioned you need to be spot on location as they start to drop pup's and locating is a big key, but if your into killing them quick for a reason at this time of year calling is very productive and a quick way to end problems.

[tonymalone]

t-,man nah locations are different, lots of winter locations have no sign at all rite now, these are locations ihave found w/ fresh sign.
Bob, you seem to be rite on,sign is not as heavy, and yes not caught a gyp yet, just old dog coyotes and they are just one here and there, really don't want the old mammy's anyway, let em raise, but some will come by set & take a dump then just keep on going w/out working set, i don't get alot of this in the winter,
tc38, nah don't want no dead ones