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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 11, 2008 11:50:20 GMT -6
I hear you.
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Post by whiskeyjack on Mar 11, 2008 12:00:53 GMT -6
This is my Albertan rice patty Most crossovers are in the middle around here
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Post by ColdSteel on Mar 11, 2008 12:05:57 GMT -6
Good pictures ,330 city right there my boys.On a 3 day run I would have at least 6 330's at that location.
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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 11, 2008 12:35:47 GMT -6
How many? maybe 6 at each paddy LOl Any beaver In that run? Or should I say how many did you take. If that were down In SC It would be suicide alley for otter. Have the beaver moved on I don't see much for feed along the stream.
Great pictures thanks for sharing.
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Post by whiskeyjack on Mar 11, 2008 13:56:54 GMT -6
I just found that one this year it is a half mile down stream from the real problem. Found it a month 2 late this was from October and the ice is 9 inches thick already.
There is one lodge in the upper left where the water and land meet. Most lodges are around the corner and up stream about 1/2 mile.
We took three from under the ice there
Should be able to set 10-12 traps on that stretch and 30-36 above closer to the main lodges without much difficulty.
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Post by ColdSteel on Mar 11, 2008 14:33:10 GMT -6
All those lodges I guess I need to refigure ;D.Beav is right thats got to be otter magnet with those pools and running water he will hunt them for sure
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Post by dledinger on Mar 16, 2008 20:58:48 GMT -6
Whickey Jack...awesome picture.
I usually find the crossover in the main channel. On new dams sometimes it's not obvious so I just pick the best looking spot and "jazz it up" a little. I personally don't like castor on crossovers but I'll use sac oil all day long...
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Post by rk660 on Mar 17, 2008 7:37:16 GMT -6
I about always set 2 per crossover, 330/ if needed 660 bottom, 330/660/leghold top side. kinda a knack to fence one down at top crossovers. I use couple poles 4-5 ft long in a V and a dive stick. I almost always pull trap back far enough that its under water. I find 1/2 out of water dont work well here. bottom I set under water if possible. If I know someone has trapped them already, i immediatly go to the legholds w/ drowning rods. Very effective w/ large traps.
Jeff C, i almost bet you would kill your beaver quicker w/o spooking if just blindsetting the crossovers and forgeting those castor mounds w/ 330s. I bet your just spooking them right off bat, and wouldnt have the problems of wised up beaver to 330 if you just set the crossovers and killed all the beaver there, w/o spooking them so much. I can usually get every beaver in a colony with crossovers and a few blind sets that present themselves.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Mar 17, 2008 15:34:41 GMT -6
I had a colony i did just that just crossovers with 330's and it took along time. Plus some BE totally submerged conibears.
I'm down to my last bunch of beaver for the season and its all footholds. No dams its big water.
I've gotten several the first couple days now they are kinda holding back. been putting in fresh sets and some blind footholds at pullouts.
Seems like these creek beaver you get four and then they get retarded for awhile and hole up or completley avoid anywhere they can see or smell where you've been.
Jeff
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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 17, 2008 15:53:47 GMT -6
If you would have paid the big bucks and got the DVD Teachers of the Night all your problems would have been solved. Well at least you wouldn't have had any beaver to skin. LOL Robert made me do It.
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Post by rk660 on Mar 17, 2008 16:40:01 GMT -6
LOL, I heard about your "party" watching those dvds beav, LOL.
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Post by robertw on Mar 17, 2008 19:16:19 GMT -6
I doubt he is the only one that had "that kind" of a party!
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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 17, 2008 19:50:35 GMT -6
Your just upset since you weren't invited LOL
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Post by robertw on Mar 17, 2008 19:51:37 GMT -6
Your right!
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Post by rk660 on Mar 17, 2008 22:27:20 GMT -6
LOL
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Post by Woodswalker on Mar 19, 2008 8:55:14 GMT -6
I've noticed big beaver sometimes jump on or over a 330 on a crossover if set out of the water. Below the dam and under water is good.
Another thing, I think the big female is the first beaver over the dam most nights. Where I want to catch big ones and leave small ones, the cross over will get the female first and I have to catch the male some place else. Resetting the crossover usually picks up the kitts.
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Post by ColdSteel on Mar 19, 2008 10:58:58 GMT -6
I am totally different I catch numerous beaver on the same crossover.I have about 12 foot of cable on each conibear and I never stake the trap down just a coupe cross sticks through the jaws and I even cut them off even with the water with loppers where they don't stick up.A set of cross sticks may not spook a beaver but its a dead give away a trap is there and I do a lot of roadside sets so I hide my sets good.I set my 330's under water and if its not deep enough I carry a small shovel in and make it that way.I think the submerged conibear out of sight with a couple of large dive poles on each side of the trap help keep beaver from being spooked plus with the 12 foot cable and not staking soild they are out of sight 90% of the time from other beavers using the crossover
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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 19, 2008 12:14:12 GMT -6
Yep short a stabilizing system so that beaver can get off It and out of the way.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 19, 2008 15:23:20 GMT -6
While not the beaver experience of many of you, I never had much luck with submerged 330s in front of crossovers. maybe its the clear water, maybe its different type of crossovers. I think a LOT of the beaver I trap, approach the crossovers from the sides- small creeks, realitively small dams. Down stream, it doesn't seem to matter if submerged or just legal.
useually a good vertical drop becasue of shall water and hill streams, so bottom sides uusally have lots of sticks- 330 fits right in.
I still think the most effective 330 sets for dams, is to have them parrell to the dam midway between the crossovers and the shore. Submerged with dive stick or leaning guard.
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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 19, 2008 18:19:47 GMT -6
In my opinion most beaver when approaching from the upper side of the dam are swimming on the surface. I have found that If the beaver haven't been trapped they are quite easy to catch with a half submerged body grip on the upper side of the dam. But when working spooky beaver the exposed body grip On the upper side of the dam loses It's effectiveness. But not totally. Yes you can catch some beaver by placing a submerged body grip In a parallel position to the face of the dam. But most of your older dams have a tapering front and most of the time these dams don't lend them selves to this situation. Newer dams have deeper faces and you might get away with It but you still need to force the beaver to travel along the high side of the dam face and then force It to dive into the submerged trap.Lots of Ifs but It will work at times.
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