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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Jan 7, 2008 10:38:45 GMT -6
Understand that this can make a difference in preventing dammage to a pelt. Double strike as opposed to a single strike. I have heard lots of different comments but would be interested in hearing comments from this site. May be wrong but think this would make a good topic for discussion. Some trappers here set them to the side some upside down and some bend the triggers. All depending on the animal and possibly where the trap is set. Is this worth a discussion?
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Post by trappnman on Jan 8, 2008 7:38:12 GMT -6
I don't use a lot of conibears, but more often than not, I put the trigger on the top- exceptions being castor sets and sets where the trap is 1/3 out of water- I put trigger o bottom.
110s- always on top
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Post by irnhdmike on Jan 8, 2008 8:55:42 GMT -6
I out them pn the bottom wherever possible. To help prevent pelt damage from the trap. You mention double strike to lessen fur damage. I never thought of it but think it could make a difference. I always thought that a double strike would not kill the animal as quickly as one around the neck.
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Post by trappnman on Jan 8, 2008 9:02:56 GMT -6
All my conibears are in water, and I think they drown long before they would die from the trap
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Post by ohiyotee on Jan 8, 2008 9:12:11 GMT -6
I don't know about that i catch a lot of coon in one-sixties and many of them never move once they trigger the trap. Head still in the box. On beaver i always put the trigger on the bottom, to prevent guard hair damage although its funny how they pull it all out at the furrier but the buyer uses it to down grade.
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Post by 17HMR on Jan 8, 2008 9:13:50 GMT -6
I too think a single strike kill quicker, I would like to hear from Beav and others who use them on land, on up or down, and in or out. (that sounds a little bad) LOL
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Post by sherbytrap on Jan 8, 2008 10:53:56 GMT -6
Well I'm no expert but when I trap on land I always use them up I find that the trap stays more effective for longer. And in my marten chubby when weasel are harassing these sites, often noticable by my bait being stuck in my 120 mag, and no marten, I usually tie fishing thread between the triggers. I sometimes for mink push both triggers as far as on both sides and tie two rows of fising lines on the trigger. Just thought I would share
Sam
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Post by ohiyotee on Jan 8, 2008 10:55:46 GMT -6
I should add that my placement in the box is slitly off center on the top, with big coon it is a single strike with some small ones it is double . off center makes for a larger looking entrance to the box.
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Post by sherbytrap on Jan 8, 2008 11:10:09 GMT -6
Yeah that,s a great idea never thought on using it for coon Sam
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Jan 8, 2008 13:01:49 GMT -6
Good points. I am convinced that a double strike is more effective =neck and behind shoulders. I am thinking of reducing fur damage due to possibility of weakened springs over time and the animal trying to move around the triggers often a single strike far back on the body. In the case of raccoon and buckets many times i have seen them hit the triggers with a paw. Mink do not like to push against triggers on land and will sometimes try and go around. If your body grip trigger have too much play before they release it can result in a poor catch. Marten will go in a box try to go around the triggers for ex. or if the trigger is slow in releasing -again a poor catch. This animal is too valuable to end up downgraded due to pelt dammage. My marten boxes and mink are now only twelve inches in length/ and both bait and trap ard well tied in..Triggers are as far to one side as i can get them. IT WORKS. Furhandler put me on to this method and i am glad he did.
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Post by thebeav2 on Jan 8, 2008 14:19:52 GMT -6
I typed a whole page on this subject and then It got booted. Wish it would stop raining so I could go out and hang some cable. I checked and re supplied one of my bait piles this morning. Coyote tracks every where.
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Post by Woodswalker on Jan 8, 2008 14:47:47 GMT -6
If the trigger is on the side do you still have the problem with coon reaching in the box? I use 160 size with boxes and sometimes have quite a few sprung traps. Most boxes are 14 inches deep, some are 16 inches.
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Post by ohiyotee on Jan 8, 2008 16:34:43 GMT -6
How far in the box is your trap i think the further in the less fired traps you will have mine are in aleast 7 inches and i rarely have fired traps.
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Post by Woodswalker on Jan 8, 2008 16:48:57 GMT -6
Mine are only 2 inches deep in the slots. I like the 160 for coon but don't like them reaching in. I'll make the slots deeper. Good idea.
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Post by thebeav2 on Jan 8, 2008 20:48:24 GMT -6
I typed up a page of body grip Info The f%&%$(*& cumputer logged me out and I lost the Fing thing that's twice, screw It i'm done.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Jan 8, 2008 20:52:39 GMT -6
Beav- next time it does that, just click your back button, and you should go back to that screen. At least, it works that way for me.
You can also select "forever" when logging in-
you got nothin' to do- get typing- I want to hear what you have to say.
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Jan 8, 2008 23:33:29 GMT -6
Beav. Wished i had seen your comments.Steve I have no idea if trigger placement has any importance when trapping in water. With coons and buckets again triggers off to the side and no problem with them reaching in with paw. Then again i use just fish meal in the bucket and cover it over with leaves. I have a four inch overhang on my boxes that protects from snow or heavy rains. Rarely get a double strike with coons. For mink have gone to wooden pans and partially block the mouth of the box with grass. These work great in many situations pans 2 1/2x 2 /12 x 1/4 cedar or pine When the marten season is closed we have to set within 10 feet of water.I posted this because in the past i have several times had trouble with mink and marten.Also i feel that trigger adjustmint plays a role in good catches. My views only
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Post by Woodswalker on Jan 9, 2008 8:26:22 GMT -6
Does anyone think coons reach in a 160 size trap in a box more than with 220s ? Or will they be more likely to refuse to enter the trap?
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Post by 17HMR on Jan 9, 2008 8:32:26 GMT -6
Come on Beav try it one more time, I too would like to hear your thoughts.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jan 9, 2008 8:32:58 GMT -6
My big coons are dead in their tracks also in a 160 they don't move an inch. trigger on top and all the way to the side both straight down.
First year using 160's and they fit nicely in the mouth of a badger hole where you know the badger is in there. on a support, trigger on top straight down all the way to one side. Ive killed 4 badger this way this year in 160's. seems to work much better than a 220
Jeff
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