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Post by Jellyhead on Sept 30, 2007 19:57:01 GMT -6
Thanks for the good book suggestions, guys!
MM--- who is the "swede?"
Aaron
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Post by BK on Sept 30, 2007 20:42:27 GMT -6
Depending on where you live,your trapping regulations, and if your also targeting other furbearers' there are lots of better mink books with "proven"methods. Gerald's book is better, along with Kohnert's book. "Mink Tales " buy Bud Hall, and "Running A Mink Line" by Kermit Stearns all kick the crap out of Faller's Fables. Those methods have the miles and mink behind them and are to be taken seriously. The way I like to trap mink for the largest part, is well described in Ken Smyth's book. (You should read it)
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Post by trappnman on Oct 1, 2007 5:57:04 GMT -6
don't agree at all- because you don't like a few things Faler says, you trash the whole book.
I've offered to debate you any part of the book- and all you come up with is "wigglers on pans"- a method he said he heard works but hasn't used.
for mink biology, for mink habits, for line manangement, indeed for about everything you'd want in a mink book- Faler's says it all.
I've talked to guys that ran with Ken- not impressed. and very much not impressed with his numbers.
Geralds book is very good one what it covers- but it doesn't begin to cover all the subjects Faler does.
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Post by wbg on Oct 1, 2007 6:48:13 GMT -6
The fact of the matter is mink trapping is simple. I think this is where many beginners have a problem, they look at a simple blind set and can't believe it will work. For a simple book on mink trapping and good illustrations on blind sets, I think Marsayda is hard to beat. For biology etc. you would need to look elsewhere.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 1, 2007 7:07:40 GMT -6
I think there is some truth to what you say- I find teaching Lori blind setting for me to be hard to do. To me, its so simple- you put the trap HERE.
I've trapped mink for 45 plus years, going on or passing 50, who remembers- and I was taught by a good minkman- and she still has problems.
Land trapping- she takes to it with no problem- it was easier to teach by far.
Which brings me to my point- its HARD to learn mink trapping from a book, a video, etc. All those can do, is start you out correctly. Then you need to TRAP mink-
When I read Falers book, I didn't need to know the set instructions, or how to put up mink, etc- indeed, I knew the sets better than he did, Where his book was helpful to me, was in the line management, the biology, etc.
my advise to new minkers- forget the modern run and gun attitudes- relax, get traps out and LEAVE THEM WORK for you.
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Post by PAskinner on Oct 1, 2007 16:58:25 GMT -6
Kermit Stearns had a mink book? Really? How could I have missed that? I thought he never put out a book. Kermit was one who used a KISS system that many would find too simple to believe- and shared his knowledge freely.
Mink trapping IS simple, IMO, it's just that pinpoint locaton to the inch is so much more critical than in most other trapping....
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Post by BK on Oct 1, 2007 17:09:17 GMT -6
Steve I can't debate verbatim with you about the book as I gave my copy away several years ago to a guy under the pretense he wouldn't let any kids read it. I do recall he advocated use of wishbone triggers of mink. LMAO You dig many elbow sets on your line last season,....... ya me too. I find it interesting you would listen to ridicule about Ken Smythe, having not read his book? I read Faler's.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 1, 2007 17:27:04 GMT -6
not ridicuking him at all- but also as I said talked to people who know him and have trapped with him. I'm sure its a good book.
lots of people advocate wishbone triggers- Im like most- tried it, saw no advantage and a pain in the butt in some ways- so quit using them.
as far as elbows- they are a good enough set- that is- in the same bracket as making fake tunnels and digging trenches, etc. Again- they work- but not worth the extra effort for me.
we can agree to disagree here- all in all, I think Falers book is the definitive one on minking.....
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Post by trappnman on Oct 1, 2007 17:27:37 GMT -6
Kermits book is a good, basic mink trapping book.
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Post by NittanyLion on Oct 1, 2007 17:54:31 GMT -6
Jim Spencer wrote an excellent Mink Trapping Book.
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Post by lumberjack on Oct 1, 2007 18:45:50 GMT -6
OK I thought I knew all the conibear triggers-whats a wishbone trigger?
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Post by BK on Oct 1, 2007 20:11:10 GMT -6
It was a trigger made of wire that was very unpredictable as to when it went off, a catch or two could bend it so it wouldn't work the same. Once they were used and bent they often fell off the trap. They were nothing you would want on a mink trap,.........they are no longer made.
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Post by lumberjack on Oct 1, 2007 20:15:19 GMT -6
OK, I remember the adds back in the 70s and 80s- a one piece wire trigger. I never tried them.
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Post by Jellyhead on Oct 1, 2007 22:43:42 GMT -6
Does anyone know where to get Kermit's book?
I've not had any luck online or in any of the catalogs I have. I think I remember reading a chapter of his in the FTA book?
Aaron
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Post by PAskinner on Oct 2, 2007 7:23:31 GMT -6
Does anyone know where to get Kermit's book? I've not had any luck online or in any of the catalogs I have. I think I remember reading a chapter of his in the FTA book? Aaron I'd like to know that too-I just like collecting old trapping books. Maybe Paul Grimshaw would have it.
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Post by frenchman on Oct 4, 2007 12:17:03 GMT -6
sign me up for the rare mink books too!
Ps. The Swede is Laverne Israelson, decent book but terrible pictures.
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Post by BK on Oct 4, 2007 14:47:42 GMT -6
Ya, and if you can't find it I'll sell you my copy.
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 5, 2007 7:53:03 GMT -6
Read all the books and watch all the videos you can then go out and set some traps. Get out on the line and get down on your knees and look at the stream the way a mink would look at it. Ask yourself this how would a mink get from point A to point B. This Is your basic blind set. That's why wearing waders Is very Important you need to get down In the water on your hands and knees to be a good mink trapper. there are lots of things you don't see standing up. The only way I know of catching numbers In the mink game is to set every bridge and culvert crossing the road and I mean 3 to 4 sets at each stop.
If your dealing with open water during your mink season I would forget the BE set, well if you want to give It a shot do so but the majority of your mink will be making their living above the water line and that's where you will catch them. While your looking for the BE locations you could have 10 pockets or blind sets In.
Pre season work Is very important.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 5, 2007 8:29:42 GMT -6
I honestly don't see how anyone can use hip boots for mink- just 2 much on your knees looking under stuff.
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Post by primetime on Oct 5, 2007 8:39:24 GMT -6
Neither can I! I'm on my hands and knees all the time looking over the situation. I'm also routinely in water over my waste. I'd be soaked if I only wore hip boots, or I just wouldn't go to 90% of the places I do.
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