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Post by wheelie on Oct 1, 2007 19:08:37 GMT -6
I had a good friend try this with a gallon I sold him......(pure pee) no sneaky water stuff or accident water spill,etc. And the jug froze solid......
I thought (my friend) was getting sh**tty about it with me and I told him to get it someplace else (cause I knew it is 100% good). But I still sell to him today...after we talked.
I am going to take a gallon tomarrow (pics) of my stock (personel) and throw it in the freezer........I will take pics of results....
This deal about freezing pee is kinda BS to me and I'll find out......
I believe concentrating it (maybe by boiling) would be beneficial, but oil freezes, so does desiel, etc.........why wouldn't untreated pee freeze too?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 1, 2007 19:37:23 GMT -6
I was wondering about that also- mine freezes solid in the spray bottle.
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Post by outdoorsaddict on Oct 1, 2007 19:56:13 GMT -6
Do tell. I am very interested too. May have to try and make some piss popsicles
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Post by jim on Oct 1, 2007 20:09:15 GMT -6
I have never froze any urine but I am sure it will freeze depending on how cold the freezer gets , how long it is in there and how large the container is, surely the spray bottle will freeze quicker than a gallon jug. we used to make maple syrup, some morning there would be ice on the top of the buckets, when it thawed from the edge of the pail we tossed the ice out, seemed to make the sap sweeter hence less boiling. Jim
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Post by briankroberts on Oct 1, 2007 20:21:57 GMT -6
It's all about the temp, 20degrees will freeze the water out of pee, 0 degrees will freeze all of the Pee, SOLID.
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Post by stickbowhntr on Oct 1, 2007 20:41:41 GMT -6
weelie you said"I believe concentrating it (maybe by boiling"...I would not want to heat it as heat will accelerate the breakdown thus defeting the purpose( my thoughts). I don't know of one single specimin testing lab that heats it , they keep it cool to preserve it.
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Post by JWarren on Oct 1, 2007 21:06:11 GMT -6
lol, you arse, that is kinda funny. haha i thought it was arse too i didn't care
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Post by trappnman on Oct 2, 2007 6:56:20 GMT -6
perhaps if some, like myself don't unerstand the process- that temp ranges, etc might be given to excaplin the process, rather than sarcasim.
Since its obvious- that the TEMPERATURE does matter- and that just saying "freeze pee" doesn't say much at all.
see how these discussion forums work?
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Post by jerrym on Oct 3, 2007 8:53:41 GMT -6
Bringing this back to the top.
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Post by 3n on Oct 3, 2007 19:34:43 GMT -6
Urine from lean red meat fed animals will turn to a dark ( coke ) color within a few hours after being deposited. It will become stronger with age. There are various methods of condensing and hastening the aging effect. All is a form of evaporation. One, by placing in the sun with cap on loosely. Two, by heating to a slow simmer for a time. Do not boil aggressively. Three, being careful not to create a mixing action, place in a freezer set at 20 degrees. Leave in freezer several hours. Drain off unfrozen liquid...........Don Bierman's Professional Fox and Coyote Trapping Methods.
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Post by bobwendt on Oct 4, 2007 5:26:30 GMT -6
several accurate posts, including the one above.
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Post by woodie on Oct 4, 2007 14:28:08 GMT -6
Just got a couple gal. of urine from Bob Jameson.Cat and Yote.One quick sniff was all it took,I think this is the only good urine I've ever had, sure is a difference.Think I'll try freezing out 1/2 gal of each.Also,super quick shipping.Thanks Bob Mike
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Post by HappyPlumber on Oct 5, 2007 8:32:53 GMT -6
Obviously none of you guys have ever tasted pee. The concentration that causes it to freeze less readily is the salt content. Salt in urine does not evaporate thus making it stronger. Many years ago indians used to use collected urine to salt cure fish and meat when it was smoke dried over a fire. The same principle of separation comes into play when freezing. Urine can be froze but the freezing temperature is lowered by the amount of salt in it. Quite possibly conventional yote pee could be made stronger by just adding a non-iodized canning salt. Has anybody ever tried that? I also believe that the smell is caused by the amonia in the pee that dissipates in the air. HP
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Post by trappnman on Oct 5, 2007 8:42:55 GMT -6
so frooze out pee is used more as a lure, rather than as traditional urine use?
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Post by bobwendt on Oct 5, 2007 10:10:18 GMT -6
hp, the adding common table salt will prevent freezing, but it will not concentrate it and weather protect it ( wash out from heavy rains,or dessication in hot dry wind). the guys peddling the watered down see thru yellow stuff havn`t figured yet that the film that settles out on the bottom, that they never have, is a big time tip off to anyone been around the block even 1/2 way. that film is naturally occuring precipitated urine salts and it develops starting overnight and continues indefinitly as the urine ages. the higher the protein in the diet, the more the precipitate. eat only meat for 2 days and watch your own pee turn dark vs the near clear of normal. you guys questioning this, pee in a glass and set it out and watch the precipitate form. the precipitate is the best of the best of the best. and some "pee" doesn`t have any, uh huh. plumb makes a guy convinced maybe it isn`t what it is represented to be .
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Post by Steve B on Oct 5, 2007 10:38:11 GMT -6
Well I admit to never having tasted coyote pee or any other pee for whatever reason. I admit to smelling it and thats about it. I am going to freeze the water out of some to try though.I do have some quality pee from a reliable source so how can I go wrong? As for ever tasting it ...I dont think so..lmao
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Post by bobwendt on Oct 5, 2007 10:44:58 GMT -6
I saw a drunk guy drink about a pint at a nta meeting 25 years ago. he wretched violently for several hours till he got the dry heaves, and his buds were afraid he might die even. they said he burped and farted fox smell for several days and he never drank pee again.
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Post by HappyPlumber on Oct 5, 2007 20:46:51 GMT -6
How concentrated the pee is when bought has evrything to do with what the animal is eating and the amount of liquid it consumes as well. The time of the year and what the animal is doing at the time also has a bearing on the concentration. Freezing the pee out only makes the salt content more concentrated. I believe that the degree of amonia evaporation is what causes the smell to dicipate in the air. Therefore the longer it is uncovered the less concentrated the smell becomes. I also believe that the pee spoils or sours when it gets warm and is exposed to the air. I have two dogs, a male and a female that get walked every morning. It is really interesting as to how each reacts to other dogs pee and why some make them interested and others not. On some pee you can't drag them off of and others aren't so interesting. On a routine pee outing in the evening the male always looks for the females urine and covers it up. I also believe each dog has different smelling pee. HP
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Post by MartyPhipps on Oct 5, 2007 21:39:42 GMT -6
Is the scrap (frozen part) good for anything?
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Post by bobwendt on Oct 6, 2007 5:34:45 GMT -6
ya, sell it to the see thru pee guy. might as well. but the jug is more value than the froze out water. of course I`m joking. I don`t think it`s worth anything at all.
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