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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 14:17:10 GMT -6
what difference do you see? what size wire are you using? How long do you let them dry- full or almost? Do you wash and dry your fur before stretching? Do you overstretch? Do you drum them and prep them before selling?
lots of variables.
When I laid the coyotes out- 1/4 on wood and the rest on wire- you couldn't pick out the ones on wood.
So- FOR ME- I see no advantage on the finished, ready for market furs.
Could I do it quicker on wood and not turning? who knows. But thats a separate issue.
Does it mean that I'm less skilled in fur because I prefer wire? Hardly. I take al ot of pride in my finished fur-
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Post by furman on Sept 24, 2007 17:39:31 GMT -6
I think wood is the better choice on leather out goods but on fur out items as long as your wire stretcher is in good shape (not bent weird) they will work as good as wood.
But wood is easier to pin holes shut and things like that and I think you can some length on wood but over all on fur out items it can be a toss up.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 18:03:37 GMT -6
boy isn't that the truth- had a coyote shot by elk hunter last year- big gash in back- pinned it and sewed it pretty easily.
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Post by 17HMR on Sept 24, 2007 18:11:10 GMT -6
I hate sewing! Just finnished sewing a couple that was shot last year, looked like they shot them with a 300 mag.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Sept 24, 2007 19:00:51 GMT -6
I belong to the Brian K Roberts club of sewing its called.........I ain't sewin nothin LOL
I'll trade you my new coyote wire stretchers straight across for your wood ones Tman then you won't have to think about any difference ;D
Jeff
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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 19:52:57 GMT -6
I use them on the bigger ones- I like the length- but we aren't buying more- and I bought another doz good wire ones this year. Much as I like Duke traps- you can have their wire stretchers.
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 24, 2007 20:02:37 GMT -6
I sold all my wire years ago, like 30 years ago. except still have wire rat stretchers, couple hundred hanging on the wall from the old days. we use to do 100 rats a day in the boom. now there aren`t 100 rats in 3 counties here.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 20:05:55 GMT -6
what brand are those Bob?
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Post by Bristleback on Sept 24, 2007 20:22:08 GMT -6
This may be obvious to some, if so, forgive me........but when scraping your coyotes do you take off the "saddle" I think it's called......thin layer of red meat on hide.........I've always done this, but was watching a video the other night and he left it on......
I know guys leave it on mink.......
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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 20:29:16 GMT -6
I don't- but I have to do minimal fleshing- even on winter caught.
advantage of not using a machine..ba-bing! LOL
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Post by Bristleback on Sept 24, 2007 20:37:03 GMT -6
Steve, are you saying you clean skin, thus removing it OR you leave it on. I caught that skinning machine backhand ;D I do as you, if I'm near civilization, every coyote gets a good bath and a rinse in fabric softener....
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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 20:40:07 GMT -6
I clean skin- and leave it on.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Sept 24, 2007 20:40:59 GMT -6
I take the heavyer parts off all of them some of them the whole thing.
Kinda depends how thick it is cause it varies seems like. And wether it acts like it all wants to come off or not.
Does that make any sense?
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Sept 24, 2007 20:45:05 GMT -6
if the hide feels thin i leave it on if the hair is good and thick and heavy i take it off....only diff i have seen is with the saddle on it makes the finished product stiff as a baord....
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 25, 2007 4:12:20 GMT -6
brand of what? the wire rat stretchers are the good ones with the 3 points/hook, peerles I think. my original boards for canines are harjus, a guy that is dead now and he was from l`anse michigan. he was real craftsman, like happy plumbers work. no wham bam boards like some others peddle.
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Post by wheelie on Sept 25, 2007 6:02:44 GMT -6
We get some real fatties in Indiana and those a fleshed (even red membrain), early caught young pups usually don't need fleshed. Like others have said, it depends on the coyote, but I tend to flesh as I don't like them hard as a board and lean towards fleshing more than not.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 25, 2007 6:10:43 GMT -6
brand of wire rat stretchers- if they are Peerless- and you aren't treating them like antiques- I'd be interested in them.
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Post by garman on Sept 25, 2007 6:36:03 GMT -6
I flesh them down saddle and all, harder work but boy do they look good and like what was said not hard as a board. Still like wood boards especially for fox and yote's make them look fuller, and always comb hair backwards after turning.
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 25, 2007 7:28:42 GMT -6
sure, I can`t imagine I`ll ever use them again. shoot me a price and we can hook up sometime or you can pay shipping. by the dozen.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 25, 2007 7:34:53 GMT -6
I'll take 50-75- however many you can cram into a typical carbdboard box. I'll pm you and we can dicker.
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