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Post by bobwendt on Aug 24, 2007 13:24:24 GMT -6
yes, several left. similar or same stuff as in the earlier ones and lots more. 4 hrs, $64.50 ppd. as always, money back guarantee for any reason at all, anything.
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Post by garman on Aug 24, 2007 13:26:34 GMT -6
Bob I hopefully be sending you a PM soon, couple weeks or so after I get done with dealing with this flood junk! Garman
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Post by hotandry on Aug 24, 2007 13:45:33 GMT -6
I had a heck of a time. Not catching one, but keeping one there.
This was about 75 or 76 and before videos, or modern method books, or the soon to occur fur boom. Lots of trial and error. Mostly error and error.
I used home made wood stakes. Till the first coyote yanked it out of the ground and took off.
Then I went to home made iron stakes. Attached to the trap chain by wire. The next coyote broke that wire faster than the first one jacked the stake.
Caught a bobcat and it jacked the stake too.
Was enough do drive a guy to drink. Or back to THE drink. Back to muskrats and beaver.
But I hung in there and eventually went to dog knot and rebar stakes, long chains, stake connectors that twirled around the stake head, etc. Bought some #3DLS's instead of using beaver traps which were mostly #4 Jumps back then. And finally coyotes were still there in the morning.
After the stake debacle I decided to try drags. The store bought ones for sale in all the trapping supply houses back then that were supposed to be for coyotes. 2 prong and 3 prong. The big ones not the little fox ones.
The first two or three coyotes took off with them and hung up pretty close by and I thought this was cool.
So I got out a long line and things went south in a hurry. The coyotes literally went south in a hurry with those light weight drags. And north, and west, and east too. I might be personally responsible for the spread of coyotes to all parts of the country I hate to admit. I think those drags flew through the air cause they certainly didn't leave a mark on the ground. I walked and walked. Brought my dog along and walked some more.
Started hanging all kinds of heavy weights to the chain above those crummy drags. A buddy with the railroad gave me a million tie plates. Tied them all on.
Was trapping alongside Bud Dalton at the time. Bud was an old timer and a real good coyote trapper. Bud's equipment and methods were way above my head at that time. Bud saw my gear and laughed that I was hauling the Atchison Topeka and the Santa Fe with me. Wore out a new truck hauling all that weight.
Eventually, I made and bought some decent drags.
About the time I figured it all out, the fur boom was on the downside. Even cats were down and out and it was time to get a job.
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Post by rionueces on Aug 25, 2007 13:44:45 GMT -6
Caught my first one when I was 16 back in the mid 70's. Caught him in a fence crawl under with no lure or bait.
Most of my instructions came from my Dad who trapped during the depression and later on to control predators that destroyed our crops and livestock. Also, bought a couple of trapping books and consulted with a local long liner legend named Hanley Burris. At 6'6" Hanley made the hillbillies in "Deliverance" look like school children.... Hanley was a great source of knowledge, and a good source for pee and home made lure\bait.
I was also lucky to inherit 15 long-springed Newhouse No. 4's with good chains and drag hooks. Those sure were some fine coyote traps... I ran a line of about 30 traps during the winter in high school and continued on thru college during Christmas breaks.
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Post by Kyle on Aug 25, 2007 17:33:12 GMT -6
Still waiting for my first. I think this year is the year that I put it all together.
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Post by Freak( Jim V.) on Aug 25, 2007 17:45:21 GMT -6
Either 85 or 86 was my first here in pa.Still hanging on the back of the furbuyers door. I tried to hometan , it worked about 3/4 of the way and old Jesse paid me $30 for it even after that. Caught it in a fox set that i set where there were rumors of coyotes. Took a coupld of years to start catching em regular here. After I started connecting regularly , took me a couple to laern how to hold most if not all of them. That is the big learning curve for a fox trapper.Between the population just starting to build and the fox trapping methods I was using. Still mainly a fox trapper here , but now I tend to coyote trap the fox instead of fox trapping the coyotes. Aint too much real difference , but there for sure is some. LOL Have had the chance to trap with some real straight guys and learned along the way with everybody I have trapped with and BSed with at conventions.
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Post by randysironworks on Aug 27, 2007 7:13:18 GMT -6
Kyle,I felt like that the first year or 2 of coyote trapping after 20 plus years of water trapping.My enthusiasm was kept high by my then 4 year old son who thought his dad was the best at everything but couldnt get a coyote.I bought every lure and bait that worked for everyone else but no results until I paid special attention to location.Now I use steffs or rk trapline lures but insist that just about anything with a sent will catch a coyote if trap is in the correct location.good luck
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Post by PAskinner on Aug 27, 2007 12:50:03 GMT -6
I still can't figure out why anyone wants to trap eastern coyotes. Seriously. I've caught a few in "fox" sets. (Can't call 'em that anymore, have to call them canine sets now.) It's ok, as a mixed line deal, some coon , some fox and the occasional yote, but to flat out go after coyotes you have to be nuts as far as I'm concerned. It's either got to be an obsession thing, which I can sort of understand, or just bragging rights.
But, maybe I'd feel differnt if we were over run by them.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 27, 2007 13:22:33 GMT -6
obsession.........
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 27, 2007 13:39:17 GMT -6
PAskinner I use to think just like you now I have a different outlook.The holding pens around here love them and at a 100 dollars a head I have no problem with them anymore ;D.I sent only 5 to NAFA several yeas aggo and averaged 3 bucks each made up my mind something had to change way to much work for 3 bucks.
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Post by bobwendt on Aug 27, 2007 14:16:33 GMT -6
they are rotton stinking cheap sob`s. if I was skinning them instead of `live selling, I`d get in a different line of work. once you get the basics and few years under the belt there isn`t much chalenge in it anymore. it`s all about how much disease and how much weather to determine how many you catch. about like everything else.
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Post by PAskinner on Aug 27, 2007 15:21:53 GMT -6
PAskinner I use to think just like you now I have a different outlook.The holding pens around here love them and at a 100 dollars a head I have no problem with them anymore ;D.I sent only 5 to NAFA several yeas aggo and averaged 3 bucks each made up my mind something had to change way to much work for 3 bucks. At 100 bucks each, I could be persueded. lol. A guy could make more money trapping possums then skinning coyotes. Unless you have Montana pales, I'd tan those ones and sell as wall hangers. I keep hearing about a dog hunter who hangs them in his yard for everyone to see and is supposed to kill 40 a year. Doesn't skin them, just shows them off and throws them away. Seems kind of wasteful, but I'm all for it if they keep the dirty dogs thinned out.
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