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Post by lynxcat on Jul 15, 2007 15:43:24 GMT -6
Romans post got me thinking...does/has anyone ever MIXED your meat base?? Say fish with bobcat meat... MIGHT be interesting..perhaps a DUAL call there as opposed to one.. lynx
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Post by k9 on Jul 15, 2007 16:09:27 GMT -6
This was posted on a long time ago, mixing cat, horse, etc. I have not tried it yet but I remember some positive postings, and maybe even someone urging others to not talk about it. . Must be something to it!
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Post by Montana on Jul 15, 2007 16:22:33 GMT -6
Beaver and Bobcat
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Post by steeliekingfisher on Jul 15, 2007 16:40:53 GMT -6
Last year was my first year making meat bait. I made some with cat, some with deer, some buffalo, some horse and some venison. I only made a small batch of each. I mixed the extra meats that would not fit in 4OZ containers and blended it all together. I only had a small amount but it got me a couple cats with the mixture of meats. I mixed mostly beaver and venison.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Jul 15, 2007 16:50:05 GMT -6
Blending various meats is being done and has been in the past with reference to lure and bait making. Another thought is mixing a fresh base meat with an aged meat. Or a white meat with a red meat etc.
Many possibilities and I am sure all would work to a degree depending on how they are worked up.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jul 15, 2007 16:53:27 GMT -6
I've mixed bobcat and beaver with good results also
Jeff
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Post by lynxcat on Jul 15, 2007 17:39:35 GMT -6
VERY interesting... just thinking with a bobcat "bait" of mixing the bobcat meat w/fish... light taint on both.. would make one WONDER if you'd get the ones's that FREAKED on fish..AND they ones that didnt..interesting 4 sure..
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jul 15, 2007 17:50:38 GMT -6
Bobcats may be attracted to the smell of fish but a good friend of mine caged some this past season in big pee pens and they would not eat fish even if hungry. I never tried to feed mine fish. My bobcat prefered coon meat over everything else. I have a coon meat nelson bait working to see if that will outperform cat meat.
Jeff
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Post by romans117 on Jul 15, 2007 18:13:01 GMT -6
I have cat meat and beaver I will be mixing, but not ground together. The coon meat sounds very interesting. I want to try rabbit. My question is, Will the type of meat make a difference if the bait solution used is the same regardless of the meat? I know the type of meat creates different smells when fresh and tainted, but the solution is stronger in smell or at least equal. I know I use solutions because they are less time consuming than brewing my own and the failures associated with getting a batch just right.
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Post by 17HMR on Jul 15, 2007 19:35:04 GMT -6
Jeff, keep us informed on the coon meat bait this fall.
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Post by lynxcat on Jul 15, 2007 20:16:06 GMT -6
Slim's GHII .. ground hog... and it IS A KILLER LURE....
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 15, 2007 20:24:33 GMT -6
Some of the best stuff I ever used for coyotes was rotted down deer meat mixed with rotted down anchovies, some seal oil, beaver castor, and salt when pink.
Damn that was good!!
I think my favorite bait was just deer meat in the freezer paper. I'd chop it in half while frozen and just bury it.
A friend of mine had a deer butchered where they sawed the bone and it was totally inedible.
Coyotes love deer meat.
Joel
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Post by trappnman on Jul 15, 2007 20:29:54 GMT -6
a thought to keep in mind- when making jerky- it doesn't matter if its rabbit, venison, beef moose or whatever... after seasoned and put up- all smell and taste the same.....
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Post by HappyPlumber on Jul 15, 2007 20:34:34 GMT -6
I believe that any meat you use should be lean meat. Coon has a lot of fat. I have never tied that, but if I did , I would trim the fat off. .Any fish will turn to a liquid after a while when allowed to age. HP
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Post by bill1306 (Phil) on Jul 15, 2007 20:46:20 GMT -6
I trimmed most of the fat off of the coon legs last year, before I gave it to the cats. They would just leave me a clean leg bones in the morning. Some of the cats liked coon more than others did, but they all ate it. I had one that would rather have coon than pack rats or rabbits. One large male really liked jack rabbit, the others didn't. I guess they are like people, we all don't like the same things to eat.
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Post by lynxcat on Jul 15, 2007 20:55:18 GMT -6
SPEAKING of seal oil...I have a pint of it...have had it for about 25 years..havent opened it in 15.. lynx
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Post by trappnman on Jul 15, 2007 20:57:09 GMT -6
lynx- I think that seal oil would smell real mellow after all that time. I used several pints a few years back and did well on it, but it sure was mild.
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 16, 2007 5:19:44 GMT -6
I keep renedered clean fat from about every species known to mankind, of fur bearers I mean, fir lure base . some is golden, some red, some pink. it all has a unique smell and I can tell which animal it is from blindfolded, so I`m sure the varmints can as they have better wiffers than me. I`d advise everyone of you to put up separate gallons of each for your own use. you can`t buy it anywhere. I do have about 10 galon of skunk fat been rendering that I will strain off soon if anyone wants to buy any of that. jeff etc, my experience with coons and canines is they will only eat it if starved into it. can`t say on cats so will have to defer to bill on that one. I have caught a few cats back to back in coon catch rings, but maybe was the ruckus as much as the coon stank, can`t say for sure.
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Post by trappngreys on Jul 16, 2007 5:32:17 GMT -6
You know I was gonna start doing that myself. I read somewhere where a guy was kepping his Bobcat fat and it worked very good.
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 16, 2007 6:34:48 GMT -6
each species fat smells like that animal. remember coon fat smell. here is another. lay the livers out and sniff them next year. you can close yourt eyes and tell which came from which even if you never sniffed a liver before in your life. especially coon and red fox.
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