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.410
Dec 19, 2008 16:06:37 GMT -6
Post by musher on Dec 19, 2008 16:06:37 GMT -6
I have a daughter graduating from university in a few months. She likes walking up on grouse so I figure her own .410 is in order. It will either be a single shot or a double. She's not into guns so a pump is a bad idea. It has to be light. Any suggestions? I know that this isn't predator talk but the gun smart people are on this page!
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RShaw
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.410
Dec 19, 2008 20:34:48 GMT -6
Post by RShaw on Dec 19, 2008 20:34:48 GMT -6
In my opinion, the 410 is a gun for experts. Not something for someone just getting started shooting a shotgun. My suggestion would be a Remington 1100 Lt. 20. Light weight and virtually no recoil. You can even find some one ounce loads which really work well.
Randy
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.410
Dec 19, 2008 20:54:13 GMT -6
Post by trap4life on Dec 19, 2008 20:54:13 GMT -6
Im 15 and ive been shooting the .410 double barrel since i was ten and its my favorite gun
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.410
Dec 20, 2008 0:09:40 GMT -6
Post by northof50 on Dec 20, 2008 0:09:40 GMT -6
Go with a older model 410/22 mag Stevens with the barrels solderer together. Then you will have a beaver gun after. It is top tracked so it can be scoped mounted. Presume your grouse are closer than 30 yards, because the pattern just does not cover it after that. The mag is a little too hard on the grouse. It is short and will fit across the quad's front and light weight. Have museum collected 1000 of specimens with one over the years, ps........ in a pinch you can shoot 22 shorts with a side blade of grass to wedge it in the mag chamber, and there is little blow back, 22 long rifffle is another serious matter. The newer models without the joinded barrels are a piece of junk in accuracy. If not the old reliable 25 $ single Cooey hammer break-open is great and cheeep.
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.410
Dec 20, 2008 7:02:19 GMT -6
Post by musher on Dec 20, 2008 7:02:19 GMT -6
She likes the .410. It's what she uses now.
Our grouse are shot at 20-30 feet tops. It's like shooting a chicken! You walk on the roads, see them, shoot them. We don't take flying shots. The goal is the take their heads off!
I have a 20/22. She doesn't like it.
The Cooey would be great. But guys want $100 for them! I like the sxs besides she doesn't always shoot straight! And often you can have a covey so she'd pick up a couple.
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.410
Dec 20, 2008 9:01:15 GMT -6
Post by northof50 on Dec 20, 2008 9:01:15 GMT -6
You can go to Chatfield Manitoba , there is a Purdy s/s 28 gu, that fell off the back end of a Ohio bird dog hunter. It's free for the finding, somewhere on the back trails. Just had to see how many s/s buffs are viewing.then I'll tell the story. That 20/22 gu is not balanced very well, are you using 3/4 oz loads for less recoil ?
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.410
Dec 20, 2008 9:10:56 GMT -6
Post by ohiyotee on Dec 20, 2008 9:10:56 GMT -6
I real lite 410 is a rossi single shot, they make the to except different barrels. my grand son has one wuth the 410 and a 22 barrel. he shot his first deer with it this year.
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.410
Dec 20, 2008 13:48:43 GMT -6
Post by musher on Dec 20, 2008 13:48:43 GMT -6
I don't use the 20/.22 much anymore. It did a lot of trap time and it's pretty pounded. Cracked stock, missing trigger guard ....
It had a nice wack to it when you shot the 20. Accuracy isn't its strong point.
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.410
Dec 20, 2008 19:47:40 GMT -6
Post by northof50 on Dec 20, 2008 19:47:40 GMT -6
Cracked my stock, going down a ditch retreiving a Sq. To this day still pay the price with sore lower back. But the gun is customized and I can shoot round trees with it now with the curve of the stock. The scope is deadly on collecting gophers hiding in grass, with just a eye-ball peaking out. That's why I asked how far are your grouse. 26 yards and there was not a death swath with gophers with the 410.
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.410
Dec 29, 2008 7:46:04 GMT -6
Post by irnhdmike on Dec 29, 2008 7:46:04 GMT -6
Why not a 20 ga. Or I would recommend a 12 ga. with 1 oz loads. Little recoil plenty knockdown for what you want to do.
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.410
Dec 29, 2008 10:19:20 GMT -6
Post by Stanley on Dec 29, 2008 10:19:20 GMT -6
I have a .410,"Snakecharmer" single shot, holds 4 shells in the stock. Great for partridge while bear hunting. I would recommend it for her.
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.410
Dec 30, 2008 0:49:21 GMT -6
Post by Barkstone on Dec 30, 2008 0:49:21 GMT -6
I think that a .410 lever action would be alot of fun for what you are describing. but that is just me.
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.410
Jan 8, 2009 17:30:38 GMT -6
Post by musher on Jan 8, 2009 17:30:38 GMT -6
I've heard that the lever actions have feed problems. i also think that she would find it "complex." (What can I say, she's my daughter...)
I forgot about snake charmers. They were pretty cool little guns. do they still make them? I haven't seen one in a catalogue in a while.
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.410
Jan 8, 2009 17:55:30 GMT -6
Post by FWS on Jan 8, 2009 17:55:30 GMT -6
Cz makes a nice little 410 O/U, I see em' for around $700 or so.
And Stoeger has a .410 O/U for about $400.
Personally I'd talk her into a 20 gauge, the weight will be about the same and it's a lot more versatile.
20 gauge is my favorite for upland birds and I handload 3/4 oz loads for skeet. Lot's of women have had their first shotgun experience with my 20 and the 3/4 oz loads, recoil is about non existent and it breaks clay birds well.
If a 20 and she doesn't want a pump or auto the CZ Canvasback is a light, small framed 20 gauge O/U. About $550 off Gunbroker in the US.
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.410
Jan 8, 2009 19:03:12 GMT -6
Post by JWarren on Jan 8, 2009 19:03:12 GMT -6
get a NEF or H&R break open single shot, they used to be $100 bucks but haven't looked in awhile, .410 is perfect for ground pounding them
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.410
Jan 11, 2009 18:30:28 GMT -6
Post by musher on Jan 11, 2009 18:30:28 GMT -6
I've been snooping around for a snake charmer. Do they still make them? They don't seem to be too common in Canada anymore.
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.410
Jan 14, 2009 15:08:38 GMT -6
Post by frenchman on Jan 14, 2009 15:08:38 GMT -6
410 single shot is a great northern grouse gun, fun to shoot, low noise, recoil, lightweight and works for hares too.
I have one (Cooey) and my girl (she's 12) is shooting it. It will be the gun for her once she goes hunting (dad is always too busy trapping so it'll have to be before mid-October).
buy her a 410 - if she does not like it - you will.
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.410
Jan 15, 2009 12:21:29 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 15, 2009 12:21:29 GMT -6
I got one of those Savage Fox over and unders- I've shoot both- and actually wanted a .410/.22- but found a 20/.22 and decided to try that-
I found that short barrell 20 ga to be an outstanding grouse and pheasant gun- more so than the .410
my go to gun for small game for sure-
with 2 shells held between my fingers on my stock hand- I could get multiple shoots off on a rise
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.410
Jan 15, 2009 12:53:06 GMT -6
Post by musher on Jan 15, 2009 12:53:06 GMT -6
Wear a wrist band and those fingers will be free.
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.410
Jan 15, 2009 15:20:41 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 15, 2009 15:20:41 GMT -6
you fancy guys-
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