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Post by Dhat on Aug 28, 2008 18:53:57 GMT -6
troy i had a red gyp several years ago out of hoffmeisters rusty red. got her as a pup from bob morietta in collinsville indiana. Made a nice gyp would have preffered a little harder tree dog though. she got shot by sheep rancher at 3 years old though. now that i think about it heck i guess it was more than a few years ago maybe 12 years or so ago lol
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Post by redsnow on Aug 28, 2008 20:05:25 GMT -6
Kinda forgot the post, till i saw it on top. I've got a couple guys checking for me, no big hurry, i'd rather wait till i find what i want. the one guy here with redbones, don't think they've ever been on bear, not really the line i was looking for. my little red dog was about half silent, around 3 yrs or so? at her end she was 100% silent, maybe a bark or 2 when she hit a track, after that she was treed, good tree dog too. need to call a guy over in VA, he has, or did have one line i was looking at, and i don't have much faith in "papers". they're handy after taking a crap, or if you plan to sell pups. i want a dog that'll hunt. kinda hard to take someones word for what a dog does, i know what i want, might be 10X what some others want? Good dogs, really GOOD ones are 2, maybe 3 in a lifetime, if you're lucky. Unless you pay big money. Trainin the dog is the fun part.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 29, 2008 7:14:40 GMT -6
I undertand, he was a good dog.
But- I want a dog to stay on that tree, until I get there. I've had coon so high up in big cottonwoods, that we looked for "like forever", almost deciding it was a false tree, and finally saw a tip of a tail, etc.
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Post by Zagman on Aug 29, 2008 7:16:42 GMT -6
Ever notice that most dead gun dogs were, in hind sight, one breath away from being National Champ?
I've heard buddies talk about retrieves that dogs made that I WITNESSED myself, and they really were not that great. I do remember these same guys however, yelling and screaming at this same dog throughout the same hunt. I think, just like with relatives, once a dog is gone, we tend to remember only the good......which IS good.
Some say you get only one good hunting dog in a lifetime.....I hope that's not true, but if it is...... I had mine.
Guess it's all downhill from here!
MZ
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Post by trappnman on Aug 29, 2008 7:26:32 GMT -6
lots of truth in that- they all get better when dead it seems...
part of it- is that so very many, think they know good dog work, but don't.
What some think is good, I wouldn't feed.
nope- not true Zags (concerning 1 good dog)
but the truly great ones, are indeed limited-
I've had maybe a handful, that fit that criteria
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Post by bobwendt on Aug 29, 2008 8:13:01 GMT -6
must be true with trappers too. turns out most of the dead famous trappers were alcoholics, weirdos at best or old bachelors that never sold enough dollars of fur to keep from dieing in poverty. I wanted to take my old dog west with me for cats and about anythiung else but was scared to death he would hit a getter gun or get shot on purpose by a sheepman.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 29, 2008 8:14:43 GMT -6
as Jeff said "the world was a lot more fun when I was ignorant"
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Post by troymcdaniel on Aug 29, 2008 8:22:31 GMT -6
It is true they all get better when they are gone. I lost the best squirrel dog I have ever had this year and he was the best day in day out dog I ever hunted with. That being said i've hunted with dog's that were better than him on a particular day but usually only got to hunt with those dog's the one time so some of them may have been better every day I don't know.
Dhat I have hunted with several of the Rusty dog's and they like most other's could use a little something in one department or another. But all in all Harold's dog's consitantly produce a coon dog that usually have big mouth's.
Redsnow no matter who you choose to buy a dog from and beleive me I hope you get a good one, if you have the dime to call Harold on you will come away a better man for having just talked to him.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 29, 2008 8:30:58 GMT -6
Have you ever noticed- the more you brag up a dog- the poorer he performs when you have a crowd watching.
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Post by redsnow on Aug 29, 2008 20:02:04 GMT -6
Yep, I'll give the man a call, always fun talkin dogs. Had a guy tell me about a batch of redbones tonight, might run down, check em out? I don't really have time to mess with it, that's why i'm not in a hurry. If i get one, i'll expect 100% outta it, and I won't get one till I'm ready to give it 100%. No use wasting a good dog, and it won't learn much on a chain. what do you do? trap, dog hunt, call? getting a dog is a big job, big decision, play with it now and then, have a 1/2 ase dog, or something you can trust. if and when i get one, i'll set aside 3 or 4 days/nights a week, hard to do with a family and other chores.
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Post by troymcdaniel on Aug 29, 2008 20:27:30 GMT -6
I for one don't have the patience to train a dog so I alway's buy a finished dog I coon & squirrel hunt and trap. T-man you are exactly right I try to never brag on one but sometime's you just have to.
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