beaver refusing lure

[Stef]

Winston had beavers closing my 330s under water with sticks (at house entrance, blind in deep channel wathever...LoL)

Stef

[trappnman]

what amazes me- is a real spooked beaver in a small area becomes like a spook- you think for 2-3 weeks..no one home...then sign...then nothing...then a little sign.....

[JLDakota]

Did a summer nuisance beaver for a friend of a friend years ago that the owner of the pond and been messing with. 330's, footholds and shooting at. He had killed one of the pair with a rifle. Wouldn't have anything to do with anything I tried including snares. By luck I located a breather hole by a lone dead tree on one of banks about 200 yds from the dam. Hole to the den was over my head and at a 45 degree angle with the bottom being tucked down under the bank. Stripped down and positioned a 330 in a Lefler stabilizer at the only angle I could get in the den entrance and wired it to the tree on the bank. 7 days from the time I set it, he finally came out and tried on the 330 for size. Was never so happy to get a beaver killed in my life. Won't even mention how many miles was involved or the fact that I got the worst case of the "itch" from that water that you can imagine. After about the 4th day the guy called my friend who asked if I would do the favor and said I obviously didn't know what the hell I was doing as it was only one beaver and I should have caught it by now. I took the beaver, punched a hole through it with a stake, laid it over the hole on the putting green he had in his front yard and rammed the flag through the beaver and into the hole. The good thing was it ended my ever agian doing favors for friends of a friend for nothing. ;D

Another beaver story... A lady that worked for me had a beaver problem during trapping season so I went to check it out. Was one of biggest beaver houses I have ever seen and with 4 bank dens that I found. Could have been more. I took 11 beaver in 2 checks and then in went dead. I knew I still didn't have the old female but had killed the big male. I set everything up heavy including every entrance I could find. Several days went by and nothing. Finally one day as I went to check I saw the tracks of 3 beaver in the snow. One old one and two young ones heading off across the field towards another waterway on their neighbors property. When I got to the main lodge, there was a two year old in a 280 in one of the smaller side entrances. I surmised that once the two year old opened the door, mamma took the remaining two kids and said "I'm outta here" and just vacated the area. She couldn't take the heat. JL

[TRay]

I have found in my area that some of the yearling beavers will avoid the castor mound set, or any lure that has a strong castor order to it. I think that when many of the young beavers are kicked out of the lodge and are looking for a place to set up home, they are crossing other beavers territorys and constantly getting moved on by the resident beavers. This seems to result in shy beavers once they do set up home. I have seen several times were beavers would avoid a castor mound day after day and yet when a fresh sets were put in with some type of food lure the young pair would be caught the first night.
I have used the Hancock trap for 4-5 years now and have found them to work very good, expecially on the large lakes with windswept shorelines. A couple of green branches and some good food lure and you are in business. The Hancock also shines on rocky road grades and cricks and rivers with changing water levels.
I have used the same couple of lures for a long time and have not yet seen any evidence that they were burning out, but 90% of my Adc beavers are yearling beavers.

[Bogmaster]

Tray,in our part of the world,yearling beaver are not kicked out .It is the 2 year olds that are forced to find new territory.The yearlings stay with their parents .
A lot of the ADC work is caused by 2 year olds,when they stake out their new claim.
Guys dam break sets are illegal in Mn and several other states.Dams and lodges are not to be molested.
Now a lot of these laws go by the wayside when dealing with ADC beaver,most times you get full cooperation from the C.O --for what needs to be done.
Tom

[TRay]

Bogmaster, you are right on the 2year old beavers as these are the ones that get kicked out, I called them yearlings but I they are really 2year olds. All of the beaver that I kill are on Adc complaints. Do you notice any refusels to castor lure in your area? I know that by the following spring these same beavers that avoided castor the previous summer will work a castor mound good. Could be the hormons kicking in or they are just less skittish.

[Bogmaster]

TRay,go back to the very first page,mine is the first responce on this subjec.It will answer most of these questions.
Tom Olson

[yota]

Beaver are no different than any other creature of habit.......some are stupid and some have Phd's...go figure ?

Winston is correct in his experience w/ small pond beaver.........they can be a pain.

I still believe a beaver that has been stung and lived is far more difficult to irradicate than a coyote that has had the same misfortune .......

[trappincoyotes39]

Buzz I haven't found that to be true, with beaver your dealing with a much smaller home range, more habitual habits, and if you have the paitance to sit at night or very early morning they all can be taken with a shotgun at some point.
A coyote can hit or miss on a kill site, has much larger home range, sign can be tricky to find during the summer, can be laid up in a dry slough and at the sound of an engine just lay low, become nocturnal and have zero killing pattern, hit one night and maybe back days, to weeks or never back again.
A beaver is a beaver and will patrol and check his/her area out alot more frequantly.
Stef I have found on a rare occasion beavers not messing with dam breaks, but in this country and drought conditions, and smaller water sheds they don't have but 2 choices make the repair or move on out, and that move could be miles and miles away, most aren't giving up what they got without making an attempt to save it first.

[trappnman]

just like in coyotes, shotgunning ain't trapping...

[yota]

35,

You ever attempted to trap 1 beaver in a 10,000 square acre lake that was peg leged ??

I have and I lost..............

[yota]

More to note from down south............the beaver are bout to quit movin here. This aint the north country and unless you have trapped both places year round , your comments have no merit at all.

Summertime suthern beaver do not move at all but eat grass and water vegitation, trapping a trap shy beavre down here has a double duty when it comes to a pain in the butt.


BTW, dont miss w/ the shotgun............cause he aint comin back.

[trappincoyotes39]

By the way ADC beaver and coyote work isn't fur trapping . Buzz I had a beaver in a mine pit that was taking down some massive cootonwoods, couldn't get him in a trap, sat one night shot him with copper plated BB's, he went down but didn't come back up, 4 days later he was in a 330, how do I know, I skun that beaver out and in his neck where 2 fresh copper coated BB"s.
No I don't have 10,000 acre lakes, I deal in rivers, creeks, streams and dug outs. Nope never trapped beaver down south, and I'm sure you never went after prarie beaver either, thats why different things don't hold true for the entire US.

[yota]

35,

agreed..............

[yota]

Back to the original question......I got one now that is neither shy or spooky, but she will not respond to any lures at all.

She whelped last week and doesnt venture out much at all...........the sucky part of my job !!