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Post by romans117 on May 9, 2007 16:56:34 GMT -6
I have coon getting in a farmers silage bags. Box trapping due to cats. Walking right past the traps and chewing the silage bag open again. Have clean up the silage and taped the bag several times. I am using sardines and nelson's bait. Need some ideas.
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Post by RdFx on May 9, 2007 17:44:13 GMT -6
Well open that taped silage bag and scoop out a bunch of silage and put into box trap.. .. Dont forget to tape up bag again...:>). Coons can be finicky at times, so give it a try... the coons have shown you what they prefer. Good Luck, and keep us posted.
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Post by 17HMR on May 9, 2007 17:51:22 GMT -6
Had the same trouble last spring, spotlite and a shotgun fixed it.
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Post by bblwi on May 9, 2007 21:44:06 GMT -6
Trail some marshmallows into the trap with a handful of the corn silage.
Bryce
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Post by coyotewhisperer on May 9, 2007 22:26:12 GMT -6
When I'm working coons or skunks in an area I have to use boxtraps for ADC You cannot beat Jameson's ADC baits! and the nontarget cat catch is about non existent.
Jeff
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Post by trappnman on May 10, 2007 6:14:39 GMT -6
smetimes farmers have to decide cat or coons....
a 220 IN the silage hole, with a little ProCoon on a stick inside, has ended the silage bag problems when I've gotten that call.
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Post by mustelameister on May 10, 2007 7:36:38 GMT -6
If you have 4 cage traps . . . .
Take the bag of silage, open it and plop it on the floor/ground. Arrange the 4 cage traps in a cross, with the back ends all butted up against each other with the silage bag in the middle.
A handful of silage leading into each cage trap should help.
Place a board/plywood remnant/sheet of metal/what have you over the silage bag, resting on the butt ends of the box traps. Place a concrete block on top this.
Some campgrounds I do this with 40 cage traps (Williams), making 10 crosses. There I'm using marshmallows and catfood. You'd be surprised at the multiple catches you'll have per set.
My theory is the first 'coon gets caught, and the others think he's scoring on the silage, so they're trying every way possible to get in there while there's still some left.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 10, 2007 7:46:28 GMT -6
I think he may be talking about those 60 ' long bags where a coon can tear into them at any place on the bag.
A 160 or a 220 In the hole like Steve said. Cat's probably won't be Interested In eating silage. Or you can give the cats something to keep them Interested.
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Post by mustelameister on May 10, 2007 7:48:29 GMT -6
Beav . . . guess that ain't gonna work, then, eh? LOL!
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Post by edge on May 10, 2007 8:53:39 GMT -6
**Beav . . . guess that ain't gonna work, then, eh? LOL!**
It'll work....you just need a LOT of plywood and traps.....think BIG,man.........
Edge
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Post by mustelameister on May 10, 2007 8:55:07 GMT -6
LOL!!
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Post by bobm on May 10, 2007 15:06:23 GMT -6
This is one area that the Griz's have worked well for me. I've set them in groups of 3 or 4 on the trails that lead to the sileage bunkers. I've had little luck setting where they're doing the damage but great success on the trails leading to them. Good luck.
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on May 15, 2007 7:40:04 GMT -6
if the coons are hitting the bags that hard they will have very visable trails in the grass or weeds....go back 50-75 yrds and get them b4 they get intrested in whats in the bag........and since your not right where the cats are you can be using more methods of removing them coons.......i have found when the coons get right to the bag...thats thier food source they concentrate on...but move away and see what happens.....
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Post by trappnman on May 15, 2007 7:48:57 GMT -6
not always true on the visible trails. In fact, most cases of a coon in the silage, here its been 1 or 2 coon- and since the silage bags are set along field lanes and in the corner of hayfields, you don't really see any trails. Catchign them isn't that hard, its te domestic situation that makes it so.
Since its not your silage and not your cats- I tell those farmers they have a choice.....
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Post by shagnasty on May 15, 2007 8:07:46 GMT -6
that is right, my way or the highway, unless they are paying big bucks, then i will do however they want, lol.
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Post by trappnman on May 15, 2007 8:16:45 GMT -6
I just don't like most ADC work, simply becasue I don't like the people that usually want the work done. Don't do this, don't do that, I want this, I want that.
Really? good luck.
Cause it might be a problem, but its NOT my problem.....
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Post by ColdSteel on May 15, 2007 8:27:14 GMT -6
I don't like most ADC jobs either.I have no problem with beaverand rats but when land traps come into play things can change in a hurry especially in a city which is where the money is at around here.I have a friend that makes good side money catching bats,piegons,rats ,snakes,squirrels that get into peoples and thye pay good money to get rid of the pest it just isn't my cup of tea
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Post by romans117 on May 15, 2007 8:48:14 GMT -6
The dude that owns this feedyard made sure to point out what bait to use because a guy told him........ I kept telling the guy they are coming for the silage sardines are probably not going to work setting right next to a hole in the silage bag. Trapping the trails which are very clear were not an option due to his kitties. So, he called the other day saying they got into the bags again, what do you want to do? I am thinking ok dude is finally going to listen and let me do my thing. I am all set to block the silage end and funnel into the box traps. Who needs bait or whatever?!!!! he calls back and says, "I put up a hot wire, we will see if that works." What a waste of my time and yours.
To bad, he has two miles of prime creek.
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Post by Wright Brothers on May 15, 2007 8:52:37 GMT -6
If that were my problem I'd look for the nearest fresh water for sign, and set there instead of the cat zone. Coons get thirsty too. That works here, I never been to Kansas.
How about calling them to gun with a caller or squealer like talked about in the predator hunting forum? I want to try that next fall.
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Post by trappnman on May 15, 2007 9:32:14 GMT -6
but not all the coon in a area hit the sialge bags. In fact, I've found its a very small minority here. So setting in the water, while it might take the problem coon, will be taking a lot more non problem coon.
This is for my area where food is plentiful. Areas in which the silage is the only real food, might be different.
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