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Post by scott kimball on Feb 8, 2007 19:49:43 GMT -6
what i really think it boils down to is numbers.here in central New York our coon population is in no way comparable to your so this is why you guys see coon out in the day alot more often than we encounter.if you have 5 coon that can be subjected to UV rays comparable to my 1coon,(just using a guessed ratio) then you have a better chance at running into coon during the daytime.as where your chances of coons being effected by UV rays are greater.
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Post by BK on Feb 8, 2007 21:09:13 GMT -6
I was once told that the yellow that shows up later in the year is from them pissing and getting it on their fur while denned up? I did skin some coon this year that were crawling into an odd shaped hole in an old house they had rubs on their sides.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 9, 2007 9:01:24 GMT -6
I think that its just deteriorating fur. And some of it is just color they pick up- dirty if you will. Those 3 I washed good the other day, became a lot brighter and some of the yellow was the rock dust. Urine will turn a rabbits feet darker- but then they smell like urine-the yellowish coon I get don't. I think the tendency is a lot genetic, but I also think its just a natural part of the fur cycle. Yellow coons early, aren't discounted much if at all. But at this time of year- the yellow- mostly seen in the hips, neck (why we get what they call redneck coon) IS discounted, because it shows what the fur is doing. Just like there are a couple of keys to determine overall condition of fur early- you get the same o the other end. Like a rub in a coyote- its not that that small rub area means much in overall usable fur- but it means ALL the fur is starting to break down. Rubs in coon are not like rubs on coyotes. Or beaver. Rubs on coon go right to the bare skin, and at least here, almost always have scabs or bite marks. I got a rubbed one yesterday.... makes a $18 coon a $5 coon.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 15, 2007 19:56:48 GMT -6
Dave P- hold your ground- these are NOT grubs, no matter how loud the chorus elsewhere.
Good example of one man knowing the answer, but being drowned out by all the experts....
They start about now and increase throughout the breeding season- you might seen one such in late Dec- but normally coon thorugh late January are good- then the "rubbing" starts. When you read about rubs- this is what they mean. I can handle 10-15% rubs- but it increases to more than that- and sometime between mid Feb and mid march it will be 75% or more rubbed like this.
they are excatly what you said- battle scars, infections, etc from biting- not GRUBS and not a rub- we just call them rubbed.
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Post by bulletbox on Feb 15, 2007 21:03:49 GMT -6
Well what caused this?? Just wondering... I have already sent the pictures to Bob W. and posted them on Tman, what do you gents think?? Thanks for all replies...
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Post by daveplueger on Feb 15, 2007 21:24:09 GMT -6
Bullet Box. Maybe I'm wrong but it looks to me like there are two distinct holes in close proximity to one another in the one photo. (bite marks?)In my opinion were looking at battle scars from boars fighting during breeding season. If a sow they would be bite marks from the boar trying to hold the sow down while he trys to do the wild thing. lol Just like an old tomcat will grab the scruff of the neck of the female.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 15, 2007 21:27:38 GMT -6
I agree with dave- I posted a pic of the same thing.
I also think they scratch at these marks and make them infected.
Always patcheso f bare skin, with scabs and/or punctures.
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Post by shagnasty on Feb 16, 2007 6:32:22 GMT -6
i have trapped very little in feb and caught even less than i have trapped, but i have never seen so much rubbed fur in my life. our fur always has been good till end of season except for some rubbed beaver once in awhile, but they come at all times, i dont know if it was just bad luck on my part or a whacked weather year caused it, never seen anything like it.
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