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Post by Creek on Oct 31, 2005 20:47:12 GMT -6
I`m going to give the 1/16 cable a shot this winter. I`ll keep good records of my findings and be shur to post the results. Good or Bad.
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Post by SteveCraig on Nov 1, 2005 8:20:19 GMT -6
Dusty, I can assure you the fox and cats dont mind the 1/8 cable. Most guys dont have a clue how to build a good 1/8 snare that is both fast and efficient. 7x7 can be built to be faster than 1x19. I have used the 3/64 for cats, but 1/16 is better. If I was limited to only one cable for cats, it would be 1/16 7x7 SS. Still holds the coons and I dont catch coyotes in my cat snares.
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Post by Dusty on Nov 1, 2005 9:25:41 GMT -6
Steve - why SS? It was a big far in airplanes a few years back - turns out it gets brittle and cracks in a few years - galvanized doesn't.
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Post by SteveCraig on Nov 1, 2005 10:50:42 GMT -6
Never had any trouble with SS. Very chew resistant. I have been using it for many years on all my foot snares. More expensive for sure. Very supple cable. I dip all my snares in F1, so maybe one of the reasons I have not had trouble with it.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Nov 1, 2005 21:19:05 GMT -6
Dusty my prefered beaver snare is 7x7 5/64 and I have less than 1% loss on 3 day checks. I use cam locks and kieper locks on 4 ft snares with 3 ft exstentions, a beaver will choke down on any "real solid" entaglement, I head snare over 85% of my beaver not bragging I just set them up that way. I like the 7x7 for beaver as I feel it is quicker on them than 1x19 a beaver doesn't move at a great speed and I dry land alot of them. I like the 5/64 and the coons I catch are over 95% dead when I get there and there around the head too. I use a loop no bigger than 6" and 1" off the ground, I can snare them on slides, boot slides, and castor sets and a mock bait set with lure. To me SS isn't worth the added exspense and I have found on coyotes the ones that do live which are few and the coons that 1x19 is chew resistant as well, talking the 5/64ths again, it makes a great snare for coyotes and when I need I use 1/16th and have little problems with the ones I have set. My cat trapping has not been that of others, but I do know many buyers deduct heavy on any snare marked coons and cats if the mark is on the leather side and visable, dealing with hip caught critters. There are places were the 1/16th cable works ideal and does put coyotes down quickly and i have heard from many that have killed mt lions with this cable with few problems, not on purpose but incadentals. I like the nice round loop of the 1x19 and holds up well. The teeth in the cam is the key along with a choke tension spring, unless you have good entanglement then I have noticed the spring isn't as crucial, but I make them up all the same, except for fence snares, I make them without a spring and file teeth and let the fence do the job!
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Nov 4, 2005 20:01:26 GMT -6
What happens when one of those MN wolves hits 1/16 cable
Dusty, hope like heck its gone. If you havent forgot they are still on the endangered species list down here. A dead wolf is more of a headache than one needs.
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Post by Dusty on Nov 5, 2005 11:08:47 GMT -6
s49 - that was pretty much my point. I've been involved with a couple wolf-1/16 cable interactions. It doesn't even slow them down, most of the time - at least not for a few days.
If I were a wildlife manager in wolf country, and slightly greener, and I found one dead wolf with a snare around it's neck, I'd be pushing - hard - for an ID number on the LOCK of all snares less than 1/8". A dead wolf in your set may be a temporary pain in the ass, but a dead wolf with a snare around it's (collared) neck WILL be a pain in everyone's ass.
And, one of the wolves I was involved in finding was wearing a 1/16 cable with a breakaway S-hook.
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Post by JWarren on Nov 5, 2005 18:12:38 GMT -6
Must have been a hopkins s-hook
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