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Post by MickMcLaughlin on Aug 25, 2005 12:27:35 GMT -6
I forgot,Mange and lice,man they have been bad the last couple years.
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Post by Dhat on Aug 25, 2005 14:25:31 GMT -6
dont mind the deer have more problems out of the people hunting them.
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Post by Beaverboy on Aug 25, 2005 15:29:00 GMT -6
I have to go with people also.
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 25, 2005 16:15:37 GMT -6
One or 2 sets of tracks in the edge of the pattern gets to me.Makes me wonder if my equipment is contaminated or not putting the right dope in the hole to make him work the set
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Post by mike692 on Aug 25, 2005 18:00:59 GMT -6
Speaking of refusals, I usually run my line in November here, which means I don't deal with snow much. Canine trapping in snow is a real eye opener. I have the occasional tracked up pattern, but in snow you really get to see the refusals. Canines that circle your set from 3 feet away and are gone. Makes you wonder how many animals really investigate your sets on bare ground. Trapping in snow was enough to make me crazy. I give you guys that do it on a regular basis alot of credit.
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Post by musher on Aug 25, 2005 19:03:09 GMT -6
ATV's and people. When I consider what the population is around here, I don't know how you people in populated areas do it. Some places another person might go by only once in a season. It's still one too many and they'll still mess something up.
Regarding vehicles over traps; I once had a tree harvester park on a foothold. I'd check at night and the machine was over the trap. A tire to be exact. Finally after a few days the machine and the trap were gone. I found the owner and explained the problem. He couldn't understand that a trap had been there since it was on a road. The concept of footholds/dirtholes was unknown to him. I never got the trap back. One of his employees (lumberjacks) probably ripped it off. After not getting it back I explained how silly it would be to rob a ten dollar trap and leave a machine worth thousands of dollars in the middle of the woods. The chains alone are worth a few dozen. I also said that I'd keep an eye on it for him!
I had no other problems and I heard that he let a worker go.
Deer are starting to be a hassle with the wolf snares. We didn't have many 10 years ago. Snowshoe hares can be a pain if you use lots of urine.
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Post by Creek on Aug 25, 2005 20:18:40 GMT -6
I would say non target animals cause me the most grief, squrriles, opossums, rabbits, skunks. For some reason rabbits are attracted to coyote urine and there is getting to be a lot more rabbits around due to a lower coyote population (mange).
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Post by bblwi on Aug 25, 2005 21:17:50 GMT -6
I chose sprung and out of the bed as my number #1 ugh, after reading need to think deer more for that item. When catches are considered as part of the picture, it is 2lbs. grinners, cottontails, eastern fox squirrels that get my dander up.
Bryce
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Post by JWarren on Aug 25, 2005 23:55:52 GMT -6
People by far
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Post by conibear1 on Aug 26, 2005 5:30:44 GMT -6
I was split with my vote between 1 or 2 tracks on the pattern and the amount of hound hunting of coyotes in my area (other). The 2nd is much harder to gauge than the first. I get along with the houndsmen :)just fine, but I do believe that they keep the coyotes nervous as ..pell.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 26, 2005 6:32:17 GMT -6
mike- I try to run at least a few traps in January- and snow is perhaps the most humbling thing out there. A man would be a fool to think what he is seeing in snow, doesn't happen in bare ground.
People, deer, possums, etc. How can that bother you? You have done everything "right"- its right and things outside your control- shouldn't "anger" you. As Garfield says "no sane man would ever get angry at an inanimate object....as he smashes his alarm clock...
I think thats why a couple of tracks on a pattern doesn't upset me at all- it means everything is "right"- and that coyote was just one lucky son of a gun. I'll get him tomorrow.
Standoffishness- circling the set or a slight uncovering of the trap- THATS what frustrates me. Becausei t means that the set isn'r "right". And I've done something wrong.
Snapped traps- can easily be cured. Even deer- set where the deer aren't. Sounds simple and it is. We have as many deer as anywhere else, but deer don't go too far off their patterns- I've found many times that moving a trap even 10-15 feet is difference between being snapped every night and being snapped once a week- and I can live with those odds.
here's a thought to ponder...how many of those toe caught animals, are digging at the trap when caught? (esp coon) ------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A man that says he doesn't occasionally have trouble with coyotes, either is lying to you or hasn't caught many coyotes... " Wiley E
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Post by kevinupp on Aug 26, 2005 8:50:56 GMT -6
My number one thing after people would be elk.
Dat blasted tame PA elk just love to snap traps and then stomp a mudhole in them.
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Post by thefoxtrapper on Aug 26, 2005 8:51:33 GMT -6
I voted for other, here is my explanation, the grief and problems with land trapping around here is second to only maybe further south a bit....the amount of people in the woods and the number of hunting dogs and free roaming dogs is mind boggling, to an extent, that most have no clue....between the trash animals and dogs, it is a nightmare fox trapping most times of the season. The money just does not justify putting up with all the agervation, thus the reason I have been staying in the water hard the past three seasons, w
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 26, 2005 8:51:58 GMT -6
Trappnman, I agree with what you said but to me those 1 or 2 tracks in the pattern is a sign I do have something wrong.I feel like if he gets in that close my lure should take over but I guess you could argue that the animal was not hungry or spooked for some reason.I am glad I don't have much snow like some of you boys like ya'll said you can tell alot in snow.
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Post by Maineman on Aug 26, 2005 20:23:19 GMT -6
The WEATHER...Hands down...It's the only thing "OUT" of my control (that I can do nothing to change) Everything else I can, modify, catch, or deal with....
DHZ
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Post by Mark on Aug 27, 2005 11:54:16 GMT -6
Great line Zag!!! You flip a lizard into a lily pad patch, the line starts moving off, you reel down a little and put all 190 pounds into the hook-set and your lizard comes flying past your head. That beats all.
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