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Post by Stef on Feb 8, 2004 9:33:59 GMT -6
I like that Brian
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johnj
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Post by johnj on Feb 8, 2004 21:06:06 GMT -6
Most of my sets with foot holds are done with drags or graples which means i can usally just set it back up as they where. On my snare sets about 50% of the time I just move the new snare down the trail 20-25 yards farther from the bait pile. On the other 50% they will not use the same trail any more. They will come in from a new direction so I set up the new trail.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 8, 2004 21:14:44 GMT -6
You brought up a good side issue john- that of trap odor on drags. Since one benefit of drags is that the trap and animal are away from the set- the set itself is not disturbed or to any real degree scented up.
I've read and been told that you would have problems with this trap because the catch circle had no smell and now the trap does.
Is this true or an old wifes tale?
And if not true- then why can't contaminated traps then be used successfully at other sets?
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Post by johnj on Feb 8, 2004 21:32:11 GMT -6
I have not had enough dig up or fliped traps to be overely conserened about the trap being contaminated with the set being relatively scent free. With that being said the more I think about the ones that have been dug out, they coyote was usally curled up around the trap(bed left in snow) as compared to be being tanged up in such a possition that it could not curl up or mess around very much.
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Post by Dusty on Feb 9, 2004 1:41:13 GMT -6
Forgot to mention - I use drags/grapples as well. My remakes are almost always where they got hung up, not necessarily where the trap was. If I had a good spot for one reason or another I may reset the original location and put a "remake" on the circle. I mostly trap the puckerbrush, so my drags seldom make it more than 10 yards or so from the original set.
If I remake a snare set, it's usually with a foot trap. I generally want them traveling when they hit a snare, not focused on a catch circle.
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Post by Iowa Badger on Feb 9, 2004 15:31:29 GMT -6
2 season ago I remade only with a dirthole and bait (food), nothing else. Caught four in the same trap. This past season I tried using just bait in my remakes but had little interest . Although newer sets nearby seemed to do the trick, even if they had been set for a week or so. Next season, I will plan on adding a fresh set near a remake if there isn't an untouched one there already. I will lure it as normal. In essence, it sounds like I will try what Brian is doing.
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Post by snaptrap on Feb 9, 2004 19:24:37 GMT -6
This year was the wettest year I can remember on the line and normal remakes were tough. I tried something new that worked out well for me.
After a catch in the "muddy stuff" I knocked off the mud and pulled the trap chain as far as I could over towards the south east corner of the catch circle, so the prevailing wind would bring all the new fragrances of the catch over the new set, and punched in a new trap bed. Then I dug a trench for the chain to lay in and pounded dirt back over it. Then I set the trap and blended it in as a flat set. Now this is where I tried something new, instead of punching two holes in a " V" pattern to relure, I just put a dab of two different lures right on the ground where you would normally punch the holes.
I had good success with this I believe cause the coyotes barely had to step into the circle and were caught. This might even take some of those catch circle shy yotes.
Like I said this is something new and I've only tried it a few times, but have caught coyotes the very next day by doing it.
Otherwise I have been using the same types of remakes as have been discussed.
snaptrap
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Post by vttrapper on Feb 10, 2004 15:38:24 GMT -6
Good post.
I am mostly a dirthole, flat and trail setter.
Dirtholes I just redig the hole and bed if nessisary. Sometimes there is enough of a hole and just pushing a stick down and out will be all I need especially if there is only grass in the hole. I like the look of the grass sticking out. If it is a wet year like last season the area is a mud bowl. When this happens, I usually convert the set to a flat set and hope for the best while punching in a fresh set nearby. I do not relure or rebait.
Flats
I make flats on plowed fields and wood roads. The wood roads are easy to reconstruct ,even in wet weather. usually there is plenty of leaves or pine needles around so i can blend in the area fairly quick. Plowed firlds are the same except for mud seasons as listed above.
Trail sets are always dragged and are the easyest to rebuild. Usually there is little disterbance at the set and a catch circle nearby has them looking up instead of down or so i think. On a wet year like this last one, they really shined.
frank
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