Need help with rats

[sherbytrap]

I need help, I have never really dealt with rats, not muskrats RATS ,,, ugly,infested rats. This isn"t a task that I,m looking forward to but to get access to a farm land and be in great terms with the land owner I want to get ride of a fews rats in the barn, Does anyone have any advice I have a fews rat traps but I dont think thats gonna cut it I was wondering if there a drowning system I could make with barrel or any product anything

Thx for taking time to read my message
Sam

[SgtWal]

The old Catch-all is great. If you can't find one a box trap with a gravity door like a colony trap can be made from 1/2 in. hardware cloth. I make them about a foot square with a tunnel around the door to keep those inside from getting past the new guy.
Leave a cleanout door big enough to get them out, dragging them back out the door is tough.

[sherbytrap]

I'm sorry what is the old Catch all and also is there a good way to kill them in the trap other then drowning. I'm not a fan of rats. He told me that if I go in the barn with the lights off I better tuck my jeans in my socks or else. So I,m thinking theres alots of rats but I do have four colony traps laying aroud to you think i should just modify them or make new ones all together. Thx
Sam

[trapperjoemo]

POISON ! And lots of it !!

[SgtWal]

Here's a look at one. Sorry for the glare.



I use a gas chamber for my euthanasia work. It's an old freezer with a tank of CO2.

[Smitty]

#0 or 1 traps wired to a brick,,cruchy p-b on the pan ,,,or 5 gallon bucket with 5 in. of water in it,,sprinkle a little barn dust on water ,and spread some p-b inside the bucket above water height,,use a 2X4 to ramp upto the top

[sherbytrap]

Thx alot guys sure appreciate the help
Sam

[redsnow]

Probably best to go to you're local co-op, ask for the stuff folks use in/around their poultry houses. You can buy the "bait blocks", they're supposed to kill up to 18# of mice/rats, per 1" cube. If they are that thick, you'll never make a dent in the population with traps. One brand is "gunslinger", a couple others used in commercial chiken houses, it'll snuff em.

[Robb Russell]

Hi Guys

Poison has its merits and if things are out of hand they are your best answer to a quick reduction of the rat population. Just keep in mind just as you and I get sick in bed so will they. What I am saying is if they are sleeping in your attic they will die in your attic or wear ever the nests are. There are also poisoinous tracking powders they run through and when they clean themselves they die from the poison they ingested while grooming.


Down here in South West Florida I often only deal with Roof rats [rattus rattus ]. Just north of me are some small areas infested heavily with Norway rats [norwegis rattus]. The only mice I have dealt with here are former pet mice and very rare at that.

I use Victor snap traps, Duke box cages and have success with T-Rex Snap traps.

I bait them with a vartiety of baits from fresh peanut butter,orange fruit slice candy, Pupperoni from the pet section in stores, kiwi, oranges, & tangerines. I have used salmon oil as a lure when I feel I am dealing with a trap shy rat. I either use a needle and thread or put the bait under the little tab on the trigger.

If interested I have more on this topic at

wildlifepronetwork.ning.com/group/OnlyWildlifeControl/forum/topic/show?id=1998073%3ATopic%3A1486&page=1&commentId=1998073%3AComment%3A1633&x=1#1998073Comment1633

[tonymalone]

SgtWall i have ALOT of rats to catch for the city, at a houseing project, the rats are comeing out of a ditch and going to the dumpster, it has a 3 sided block wall around it, i went up today to put poision out (just one bite) and seen where they had already put the same kind out in ditch here and there, i always thought that stuff was a sure bet. hhhmmm i went on and put 2 bricks of it out, around dumpster in pieces of 4" pvc pipe about 2 ft. long and tossed some under dumpster,

i am real interested in your trap, i've been studying the pic. in the post, and just cain't git the tunnel around the door straight in my mind, could ya explain that alittle further? how many will the trap hold at a time?, and do ya feel many escape w/out the tunnel?

any help appreciated.

Jan 7, 2008 22:09:38 GMT -6 SgtWal said:

The old Catch-all is great. If you can't find one a box trap with a gravity door like a colony trap can be made from 1/2 in. hardware cloth. I make them about a foot square with a tunnel around the door to keep those inside from getting past the new guy.
Leave a cleanout door big enough to get them out, dragging them back out the door is tough.

[northof50]

Kora traps , St. Anne Manitoba make 2 types of nice rat trays. One is a 2 inch circular conibear type good for holes. another is a smaller version of their martin trap 3.5 square, baited or runway setting. their web page I believe is Trans Canada Trap sales, don't know how to post that.
Baited 110 lying flat in crawl spaces works if your not clostrofobic.

[glenstoddard]

Get a 55 gallon drum and fill it half full 1/3 full of water. Put a wood ramp or pole from the ground up to the rim of the barrel. suspend the bait from the ceiling in the center of the barrel with soft wire. Weld a metal ramp to the rim of the barrel that slopes downward into the barrel, about a foot long. Clean out rats at least once a week, depending on weather. If the water freezes, it will still work, they will still be alive and if left too long, they will eat each other. You will probably find mice fall in there too. good luck!

[greyscat]

55 gal. drum...plank going to top... 1/4" round stock that goes through a empty 20 oz. soft drink, long ways through the cap. heat the wire th do this. this will make the bottle spin when they jump on it trying to reach the peanut butter you've smeared on it. secure the bottle half way out so that it spins but won't slide on the wire. cook rats at 325 till crispy. bonapetit!!! you can thank me later

[exomag]

The use of the 55 gallon drums is a good idea but we do it differently here. Instead of going to all the trouble of elaborate roller systems, just fill the drum half full of water and then throw enough chop or any kind of grain that will float in the water. Just make sure that you have enough there to make it look like it is a half full barrel of grain and the little buggers will jump right in and drown!

[trappnman]

now thats a good idea-

[Mike Wilhite]

The colony traps work good but it may be a while before they will enter them as they are often shy of new structure, at least in my experience. Also, in my experience, it seems like if one finally goes in many more will follow. I also use Co2 to kill them because when I take them out of the trap I like them dry! If using poison, I think it is important to switch brands frequently as they will build up an immunity after a while. I also have worked some large poultry farms and have had them crawl up my leg , up on my shoulder and jump off on the wall. I used colonies in combination with snap traps and have had single night catches close to 100.

[jim]

Wow. You could make a scary movie.

Jim

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